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Pillar of the Community
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Love the backwards S in the motto!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Profile is wrong, 0 in 50 too small, the period after the C in 50 C should not be that high, engraving of the branch is crude.
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Pillar of the Community
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nice piece, agreed: contemporary
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Valued Member
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Moderator
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The backwards S and 50 C are dead giveaways. Cool!
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Forum Mom
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Very nice find! I haven't seen many counterfeits of this series and this one is definitely interesting. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Susan There are many contemporary fakes, and there is even a reference book for them: Contemporary Counterfeit Capped Bust half dollars by Keith Davignon. It is about to go into the 2nd edition. Very neat book
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Bedrock of the Community
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It's been in the second edition for some time now. By now the second edition is possibly out of print.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think this the famous Overton Dyslexic variety. R-9 
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Pillar of the Community
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contemporary fake. anyone know what this is made out of? Can we get a weight on it? how off is the weight?
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Valued Member
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Just recently there was an 1823 AND an 1825 bogus half on ebay. They went for very good money for counterfeits. Those particular ones look authentic and can fool many collectors, but the Bust Half collectors can spot them very easily.
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Bedrock of the Community
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most of the contemporary counterfeit coins are made of the correct composition and even the correct weight, sometimes they were even a little heavier than the originals. With that being said this one is probably coin silver just like the originals were. Contemporary counterfeits were made to circulate along side of their original counterparts. Its the modern counterfeits that are usually made of junk metal and are the ones that sometimes stick to magnets and the weight is usually to far off to be real where the older ones are usually close because they didn't want it to attract attention when being carried and used
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Valued Member
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Actually, the contemporary counterfeits were NOT made of silver. They all are under weight. Some look better than others. The 1825 and 1823 that I mentioned in a previous post were probably made from discarded mint dies and look very good. Others were made from hand made dies as was the 1824 that I posted.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The contemporary Bogus Busties tend to be made of German Silver, a copper nickel zinc alloy. Some are copper with a silver plating. They are usually significantly underweight. Making a contemporary counterfeit out of silver would have been a waste of time since the coin had nearly its full face value of silver in the coin. A counterfeiter making full value fakes makes no profit. He could make some profit by short weighting the coins, but he can make a lot more by using the German Silver, which looks a LOT like silver when it is new. The turn of the 20th century fake Morgan dollars were able to use full weight of silver because at that time the silver in a dollar was only worth about 30 cents. The middle easter fake gold coins of the 50's and 60's were able to be full weight because US gold coins were selling for roughly two to three times bullion value.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I had never seen a Bust like this but I have seen quite a few contemporary Trade dollars and most of them were coin silver and either the correct weight or a little heavier than the originals. I just figured most of the ones that were made to circulate with their original counterparts were the same no matter the series. I have seen some contemporary Trade dollars that were under weight but most I have seen fall in the category above
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