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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Quote: A rifle cartridge reloading center. Even the bad guys would appreciate the need to support such an enterprise!! Indeed so. What they might not appreciate, though, is you arming up their opponents. Using ammo as a trade item in a SHTF scenario would be dicey at best. Under those conditions, it is entirely possible that some people would be sufficiently desperate to try taking ALL of your stuff and using your own reloaded ammo to do it. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3789 Posts |
i JUST voted lol I hope late votes are accepted lol
YES I would buy physical gold at 2,200 oz. before I stopped collecting as the price was rising I was picking up proof gold from the US Mint.... I just did it to keep my collection of proofs up from the US mint of gold and silver... except that year were we had no proof silver Eagle bummer...
as far as GLD and futures, I would also buy gold as soon it makes a new yearly high. I like to buy high to sell higher, it works for me frequently. In fact I would LOVE to see gold at these all time highs again because it will go higher, there is no distribution and no supply of gold at these prices so there will be buyers to bring it up higher. Same thing with silver.
so yes, I will ALWAYS buy proof silver and gold, period no matter what the price is.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
People here are taking the worst of the worst and making very bad ad absurdium arguments.
Suppose the world were so drastically changed that you would actually consider buying a loaf of bread with a one ounce gold coin. The public would not care if your coin were in the form of an old government issued measure or in your own home-poured ingot. So why not take that one ouncer and pour your own smaller ingots to make a bread purchase. People aren't really thinking in terms of what the world would look like if you actually wanted to use gold to buy bread. Look to Zimbabwe - they don't have the luxury of spending American Eagles - they panned the gold out of rivers and paid gangsters in flakes and nuggets! So to heck with acutal weights and measures in a SHTF world. Gold for bread is beyond drastic. The beauty of gold is that you can alloy it or make smaller ingots if you should so please because it's one of the most liquid (pun intended!) forms of money ever used in our short history!
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Valued Member
United States
77 Posts |
Not that I do or don't buy gold, but if I were to buy gold as an investment I would cost average it and buy a set amount in the value of dollars, say 1,000$ per year, in gold to set aside, and if that got me a 1/4oz or 4oz, that is what I would buy.
Then again, I don't even buy into half the gloom and doom stuff out there as far as our economy, or that my possessing 10 ounces of gold would REALLY change anything.
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Valued Member
United States
148 Posts |
I would assume if things got really bad there wouldn't be an exchange of money such as gold as much as there would be bartering of necessary goods and services for other necessary goods and services. Either you would produce something to barter or you'd work for someone else and be paid with food, clothing, and shelter.
OR if this was a localized meltdown of our country's economy it would become advantageous to use another country's currency instead of our own.
Once things stabilized then you could probably trade your gold and silver for whatever the new medium of exchange would be, but I'd doubt you would ever directly exchange your PM's for bread as it probably wouldn't be feasible. This is just my opinion.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thered eventually be money changing hands but not for a while itd be mass panic. Linx put it well, 10 ounces of gold really wouldnt go very far at all and youd basically be way overpaying with it. Silver would be the better way to go for that. The bottom line is kind of if it really got that bad it would take a lot of luck to come out the other side.
There really is a ceiling though for how high gold can go. If it gets to high no one buys and the price comes back down. Inflation can raise that ceiling but we wont be seeing 10k gold with out massive inflation to few people can afford that
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3789 Posts |
Gold has no ceiling until the market says so. AT this stage, there is no overhead supply or price for gold above its all time highs currently. In these type scenarios, when there is no supply or memory in terms of price, prices can rise. and if they dont at first, doesn't mean all time highs wont be attempted again.
What is high will go higher and there will be buyers to take it higher, gold and any other asset. Its clear gold has done a good job of holding its highs. Furthermore, inflation is not necessarily needed for gold to go higher.
theres many factors at work with gold- supply and demand, a new era of being viewed as an alternate currency are two main themes.
In the end the markets will decide where gold ends, stops,rises, drops.
It clear its been on a long cycle of running higher and I suspect from its price action we will continue over the years to see a slow grind up.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36844 Posts |
You can bet that foreign Central Banks will continue to buy gold no matter what the price is. I doubt they would want to be caught holding a depreciating asset like the Dollar, Euro or any other unbacked paper currency.
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Theyll buy a percentage as a hedge and better tax laws but they wont just buy indefinitely or covert entirely to it. They lose money too if it goes down and thats all they have.
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Valued Member
United States
161 Posts |
I can't afford to buy gold at $1500.00 / ounce.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Quote: Gold has no ceiling until the market says so. I like Peter Schiff's answer to "How high will gold go?". He responds with, "I don't know. How much more money is Bernanke going to print?". That is a relevant question.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1723 Posts |
But does it matter? Ben says print and market goes down $4. Guess it should start to matter once the devaluation starts to take shape. With Christmas and the new years here, everyones going to put on the rose colored glasses for a while.
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Valued Member
United States
197 Posts |
If by "staying there" you mean settling into a trading range as it has for the past year, then I would certainly consider buying, but my decision would be based on the chart and on my take of underlying economic conditions and where I think those conditions are headed. Price to me is not a consideration; the likelihood of a strong and sustained upward move is all that matters.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
648 Posts |
I wouldn't buy at 2200, but if it's that price by next Christmas - hopefully someone else will buy some for me!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
830 Posts |
I'd buy it at $2500/oz if I thought it would go to $5000/oz.
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