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The Death Of Coin Collecting As We Know It?

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 Posted 10/09/2012  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoungNumismatist to your friends list

I had to get a snack while reading this one. I love this article and extremely believe the purpose. We need to share our coins with the world's eyes and not hide them in a safety deposit box. Also, great job with writing this.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list


I have been using coins (and will soon pick up some bills) to help teach my classmates in history.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
I don't see any end to coin collecting or of circulation coinage. You may see pennies and nickels go away, but the paper dollar may also disappear, so there will be 3 or 4 commonly circulated denominations. Kids today will be challenged to find all the State Quarters in circulation. They won't need but 3 wheat pennies and a couple of Memorial cents for their Dansco 7070 with examples of what the "old-timers" collected. I can't see a young collector being as fascinated by a 1909 VDB as I was as a kid when wheats were still plentiful in circulation. The only nickels I have before 1938 are in my 7070. The only silver I have before 1959 is in my 7070. Collectors will adapt to reality. I'm more concerned for the future of philately (stamp collecting).
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 Posted 10/09/2012  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edgman to your friends list
I sort of believe what matthewvincent quoted was basically right but I think its because we are becoming a disposable society. Everything is throw it away and get a new one. No young person I know of has any sense of keeping something for memorabilia purposes. Some day soon they may find a way to make disposable coins. Debit and credit cards are taking over very fast nowadays. Most of what the mint is putting out is for collectors only. Go into Wal-mart and pay for something with a Presidential dollar and see the reaction.

Just my thoughts

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 Posted 10/09/2012  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FinanceGuru to your friends list
Even as the U.S. and most major countries are majorly "plastic card" based economies now, there remains a strong interest in coin collecting. I cannot foresee a point where the government mints will stop producing but the actual mintage amounts may decrease.

So, I would say collect more now!
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 Posted 10/09/2012  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list
I am more concerned about the decline of circulation coinage (too much online payment stuff!) than coins becoming too expensive because finding cool coins in change is probably what created alot of new collectors- get rid of such a great collector creator and you won't have to worry as there won't be enough people to drive prices up.


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. I'm more concerned for the future of philately (stamp collecting).

Yes, so am I. Darned email!

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 Posted 10/09/2012  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I don't see any end to coin collecting or of circulation coinage. You may see pennies and nickels go away, but the paper dollar may also disappear, so there will be 3 or 4 commonly circulated denominations.
We may not see it, but I feel that it will happen eventually. At some point, physical currency will be seen as extremely inefficient. At the very least, I expect government will cease to issue (and back) physical currency in the (distant) future.

I am not saying it like it though.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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When the last of the 1913 "V" Nickels held by private individuals is sold, will its fate be a bank vault?
The 1933 $20 gold piece?
A tetra drachma of extreme rarity?
(Sorry Ancients' collectors if I misspelled it!)

Tetradrachms are pretty common; it's decadrachms (also spelled dekadrachms) that are scarce and super-expensive.

But to answer your question here: A coin's history does not end just because it winds up in a museum or in some collection that never sees the light of day. Coins, especially precious metal coins, are entirely capable of outlasting such temporary human institutions. Even the countries that issued the coins are not likely to outlast them. Museums fold; collections are sold off and dispersed, and great rarities come onto the market once again.

Coin collecting will get harder, and it will get harder to find a coin collector, but I don't think numismatics will ever die off completely. The human population is constantly increasing and not likely to stop doing so anytime in the near future, while the number of surviving coins is decreasing slightly, as it is inevitable that some coins are lost each year through accident, vandalism, natural disasters or recycling.

If the proportion of the population that collect coins were to remain constant, this ever-increasing demand and ever-shrinking supply ought to generate perpetually rising prices for coins; the only thing that could stop this is a reduction in the proportion of the population that are coin collectors. And I agree with jbuck that coins are obsolete technology; they will eventually go the way of the slide rule, crystal radio and oil lamp - they'll still exist, and enthusiasts will still own and treasure them, but they will become historical curiosities, no longer a part of the everyday life of most people. When that time comes, demand for coins will drop, as the number of coin collectors fades into insignificance.

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Some day soon they may find a way to make disposable coins.

They already have. I believe you call them "zinc Lincoln cents". Use them once, then throw them away.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Posted 10/10/2012  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
The story appears to be based on one specific items rarety. And yes there are many such itmes in the world. Some coins that have only a few in existance make them an item so few will ever have. Yet coin collecting, as well as many items, goes on and on and on. How many Mona Liza paintings are there? How many 1957 Chevy's are there. How many original Colt Dragoons are there. How many original Bowie Knives are there. Yet there are gun collectors, coin collectors, car collectors, etc. all over the place. Collecting STUFF is just a human trait and regardless of what is available and what isn't, collecting will go on and on forever. Don't belive me. Just look in anyone's garage.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
I think coin collecting will always be around. If for some reason coins are stopped being minted and all transactions are electronic that might spark even more interest in collecting. The government may still mint small qualities for collectors like the they do the half dollar now. It's legal tender but not intended for circulation.




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 Posted 10/10/2012  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
unlike violins coins were never intended to be played or do anything except for either be collected (like the proofs and other special coins) or to be spent to buy items. They actually have been held onto and saved by everyone that could afford to do so from the first coins minted. Collectors are doing nothing but this, we keep the money we want to keep as long as we can. So I don't think it will ever be in danger of dying as long as there is coins out there that can be collected
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 Posted 10/10/2012  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
A lot of higher value coins are bought up as investments, and a lot of them wind up in private superannuation funds. At least, that has been a trend for around 20 years or more in Australia.

However, the current 'baby boomer' superannuants will eventually kick the bucket, and the numismatic investments from those funds will find their way back into the market. This is one of many reasons why I think the long term future of numismatics is secure.
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 Posted 10/11/2012  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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The government may still mint small qualities for collectors like the they do the half dollar now. It's legal tender but not intended for circulation.
I think I would be okay if they would guarantee this and then stopped minting all denominations for circulation. Over the last few years it has become exponentially more difficult to find the new releases in change. If all coins were NIFC, I could justify purchasing the full mint set.

Do not get mad at me, I am just pondering the possible.
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 Posted 10/11/2012  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
I am gratified to see so many well-thought responses.
There is, of course, no correct nor incorrect answer.
But it got you all to think!

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 Posted 10/11/2012  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Nah, coin collecting wont die.

Sure, it may for a while 'bottleneck' but its not going to die. As long as museums carry collections, the hobby will never die.
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