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 Posted 11/19/2012  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list
The true value of the State Quarters will be the memories you keep of searching through the change jar with the kids every weekend. And the thrill of watching their faces when they find a new coin for the book, especially towards the end when they got harder to find. The sense of accomplishment when we finally found the Mariana Islands to complete the book was priceless.
People say all the time " why don't you just collect mint or proof sets " it's easier , faster and more valuable. I have been a collector for forty years, the true value of the State Quarter program to me , is that I now have two young co-collectors.
We are now two years into our national parks book.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MadMortician to your friends list
I bought a box of empty tubes, and as I roll hunt for '76s and silver, I pull out the best looking state/ATB quarters for the tubes. My eventual plan is to buy another box so in the end I will have 1 box of tubes for D marks, and one for P marks. And then once the tubes fill up, I'll just replace any coin in the tube for upgrades only.

I personally just like the look of the coins. I doubt they will be worth enough for me to retire on them, so instead they are just for my personal satisfaction.

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 Posted 11/19/2012  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I have no concern for what they are or will be worth. I have my set, I like it. That is all I need.

That being said, I feel that the higher grades and proof issues may be worth a (significant?) premium in the future.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marcusm16a4 to your friends list
I really am not a big fan of them.My grandfather gave me the set that he collected,your right,only sentimental value.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
I love the program, and the follow up ATBs as well. Like Jbuck, I have my collection and I like it. Being the hoarder, I mean collector, I am, I am working on high end MS and Proof sets. Those will be worth a good premium I believe. Especially the territories and DC coins. Relatively low mintages on those. Likely the same for the ATB's.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Especially the territories and DC coins. Relatively low mintages on those. Likely the same for the ATB's.
Most definitely agree. While the mintage numbers may not be low by classical standards, they are (as stated) relatively low compared to the Statehood series. I also think that their real (long term) potential is as a conditional rarity (for the high end grades).
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 Posted 11/19/2012  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ram96 to your friends list
They were a great way to get the grandkids into coins. They each have a complete set of P's & D's.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list
I think there's also damage to take into consideration; while we will never know how many of the State Quarters have been dropped down drains, flattened on the railroad tracks, put into quarter-rolling machines (like penny presses only for quarters), etc., I think we'll see that as the coin dump lessens the amount of BU/UNC hoards and circulation quickly destroys many of the designs, there will be a significant premium on coins that still meet the UNC standard.

A second thing to consider: you know how ganky, tatty '43 zinc cents are worth more* than shinyshiny zinc cents, because a shinyshiny zinc cent has almost certainly been replated with chrome or new steel? Think about how many of the Staties have been plated with silver or gold, or have been colorized. As it becomes obvious how many millions of the Staties have been damaged this way, the remaining AU/UNC quarters will go up in value because they'll turn out to be harder to find.

I used to collect Beanie Babies (yeah, yeah, I know, I know), and we had a very simple formula for determining rarity value for non-commemorative, non-error Beanies: Number of Beanies of a specific type (say, Iggy the Iguana) produced, minus ten percent. This ten percent was automatically discounted as destroyed (used as toys and presumed tagless). Then we subtracted fifty percent of the difference (so if you started with one million, now you have 900k and you're subtracting 450k), and said that this final value was the number of Beanies that we could reasonably expect as a "ceiling" for the number of mint-state Beanies--there would almost certainly be fewer than that number, but absolutely no more. From this number we derived value, which is why the original nine Beanies commanded such a premium--there weren't that many of them to start with, and when you took the number down that way, they were extremely rare.

I think State Quarter collectors in the future may establish such an equation to account for losses from improper storage (metal damage), circulation-to-death, etc. After all, classic coins are often expensive because they are the "only ones left"--you can't just go back in time and rescue an entire bag of coronet large cents from the Mint. If we still had every large cent ever minted, they'd be worth a couple of bucks--not twenty or thirty (grade notwithstanding). As it becomes obvious how many have been destroyed or repurposed (Daniel Carr, I'm looking at you), their relative rarity will increase.


*Most of the time. I'm sure even in wartime there were savvy grampas-and-grammas-still-to-be who set aside the coins right away in UNC/AU knowing that they would someday be rare and possibly valuable to their kids or grandkids.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
Best long-term " State Quarter" investment? The highest-MS business strikes graded by TPG's, and error coins.

You also can't go wrong with a complete Set of 1999-2008 Silver Proof Quarters!

That said, there is a certain (non-monetary but true collector) satisfaction in having completed folders of MS-63+ "Choice BU" State Quarters taken entirely from actual "received in my change" circulation.
(all "D" mints, in my case!)

Note: I filled those three folders as the coins came out from 1999 to 2008. Filling a folder with Choice BU-grade State Quarters would now have to be done with BU rolls.

Funny thing is, the coins I found in my change look better than the business strikes I see in the typical filled State Quarter folders/albums for sale at dealers.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
This is another question that gets asked often on CCF.
You will see members that don't care for them and members that love them.

Let me try to answer why I feel there is future value in State Quarters.

IMO - It will be a series that will be collected for generations to come, so there will be a collectors base.

The trick is to cherry pick mint/BU rolls to find the very best grades. I do think circulated grade will have little value.

Check out the prices in this link for early State Quarters (1999 - 2004) in grades MS66/MS67. Early quarters are hard to find in upper grades, I find/cherry pick the better ones in mint sets.

http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/price...ices61.shtml

Also there are the Silver proof State Quarters that are really nice looking. The 1999 and 2008 silver sets have pretty good value now .. maybe more in the future.

Of course there is the 2004 D Wisconsin extra leaf quarters (high and low leaf) I plan on picking some of these up ... as a goal for the coming year.

When I see slabbed State Quarters .. selling cheap I pick those up. I have seen business strike quarters come back with a proof like grade.

Then there are years that have Satin finish quarters. As these become more popular, collectors will see that satin finish quarters have a low mintage, compared to other "P" and "D" mint quarters.

There is value in State Quarters, just find the very best ones to put into your collection.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list
GR58, I'm curious. I picked up some coins awhile back that came tumbling out of rolls with cameo proofs, and they have a satiny finish. Are they worth holding onto?
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 Posted 11/20/2012  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Keep it long enough it will be scarce. Actually an uncirculated set will be nice to have years down the road. Many coins are being ruined as we speak. But Time will Tell and not in our lifetimes.
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 Posted 11/20/2012  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list

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GR58, I'm curious. I picked up some coins awhile back that came tumbling out of rolls with cameo proofs, and they have a satiny finish. Are they worth holding onto?


Nina between 2005 through 2010 mint sets had satin finished coin. Most consider these a different variety of coin. Mintages for those years range from 1.1 million (2005) to 527k (2010). If the coin you found with the proofs (S mint coins) are satin finish (P or D mint coins) and are in higher grade condition, then I would keep those.

I see some coin shops selling the satin finished coin at higher prices then the business strike coins. Also TPG's do put a different grade for satin finish coins.
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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list
Saw an ad on Craigslist this morning for unopened $25 State Quarter Mint Bags for $50 each.
Sorry, can't see it now or any time in the near future........
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 Posted 11/20/2012  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list
GR, they are. Everything in the rolls was AU/UNC (it looked like someone dumping at least part of a collection).
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