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 Posted 08/17/2021  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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The only insulators I found were smashed fragments:
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 Posted 08/17/2021  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list

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The only insulators I found were smashed fragments:


Sad pieces of smashed history


If you find a red Bullers one this way, or some other hard to finn piece, go ahead and make what the hobby has sometimes called a "kitsulator" out of it with some porcelain glue.

I have to admit I am past the stage of adding a lot of insulators to my collection anymore b/c the history, research and writing aspect has become so much fun for me. I have a bunch of more common pieces that are hiding historical info about their manufacture, companies, machines invented/used to make them and this takes up my hobby time concerning insulators.

Enter the new major collision of the two hobbies:

Some background:
The hidden info I mentioned on insulators comes in the way of different marks (number or letter) on the insulator indicating one of the following:
1. Date Code: a cryptic company code indicating the date a piece was made.

2. Mold Number (MN): a small number/letter telling the number of the mold the insulator was made in for aiding broken mold repairs.

3. Shop Number (SN): A shop (group of workers) had their own SN engraved into their molds so each insulators made by that shop would be traceable to which shop made it. The large, prominently placed SNs (dome top or sides) made for easy tallying/payment to each shop for each insulator they made.

Recently a new interest in these marks has grown since people want to know/collect a "complete set" of their favorite style of insulator by these markings. But there is no list to tell them what is out there for their specialty area.

Here is the collision:

All of the above markings are collectively known "Mold Marks (MM)." Currently I am heading a project for the National Insulator Association designed to solicit online insulator collectors to contribute/build a database of all known MMs in all categories.

In my write-up explaining the project to the insulator hobby I mentioned insulator collectors would now have a guide enabling the collecting of insulators in a way coin collectors have always enjoyed to make a set: Getting a complete set of MMs (Mint Marks or Mold Marks depending on the hobby) for each item collected.

So what better name for the project than "Project Red Book?"

So now the insulator hobby's "Project Red Book," is in the design/coding stage!

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 Posted 10/09/2023  04:18 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list
As part of my recent vacation in the USA, I took the Amtrak Coast Starlight train from San Francisco to Seattle. It was a very comfortable journey and even got to Seattle about 20 minutes ahead of schedule!

Along the way I saw some stretches of pole line that looked as if they might be still in use, and others that were obviously disused, with drooping wires, poles lying at odd angles and lots of glass insulators, many of them smashed.

We made a short stop at a station called Klamath Falls in Oregon. I went for a stroll along the platform and found this among a pile of trash and bits of old timber...
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I've identified it as a McLaughlin #42. Unfortunately it's a bit chipped on the rear, but it's my first American glass railroad insulator!
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I've identified it as a McLaughlin #42. Unfortunately it's a bit chipped on the rear, but it's my first American glass railroad insulator!
Excellent!
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 Posted 10/14/2023  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cptbilly to your friends list
Enjoyed reading this thread with the first cup of coffee this morning. . .thanks for the photos and history lessons.
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 Posted 10/14/2023  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
When Oregon marked its centennial in 1959, a number of cities participated in a "Good For" token program - Klamath Falls was one.

You can complete an Oregon "Collision" if you add one of the tokens to your collection!


Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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 Posted 10/14/2023  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Interesting for sure!
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 Posted 10/15/2023  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Canadian ice hockey is a bit like that !
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 Posted 10/15/2023  07:54 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
I have one...can I sell it and buy a 1909-S VDB?
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Wow Numis...very nice find! A CD 154 McLaughlin. Since I have always been east coast and am now midwest, I have an absolute zero chance of finding a Mclaughlin in the wild.

That also is a nicer color. Many of these that I do see at shows and swap meets are straw or pale greenish colors. A blue gray lists 20-30, blue at 30-40, and Delft blue at 50-75. Cannot tell which this one is in the pic. Not bad for the first one you ever got in the wild!
Admittedly the picture reminds me of a delft blue one.

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As to damage, the insulator hobby is a bit more forgiving than coins and bottles. These were utilitarian glass and so an actual mint specimen is not usual. A wooden pin's base (which the insulator would be screwed onto) sometimes was secured with a nail being pounded into it through the side of the crossarm. Sometimes the linemen actually used the dome of the insulator to do this!

The insulator price guide actually specifies the listed prices are for near mint specimens.

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 Posted 10/15/2023  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
@nss-52

Well...sorry...in clear they are found on the free table at shows.

BUT...considering this is likely 100 years old (or close now that we are in the 2020s), it is still an amazing pice of history for sure.

The thing is that now, unless you are out west and in a secluded areas, almost all glass insulators in the wild are have been taken down by RR companies fearful of (brainless) law suits.

In the last 3 years or so it has been surprising to people in the hobby that what we always considered common have been moving up in price from free to 3.00 and up to 15-20.00 depending on the color. I think the internet has also spurred this on b/c postal prices are so insanely out of control that anything online costs way more than it used to. So ebay insulators I used to ship for 2.50 are now shipped at a minimum of over 10.00. Thus what used to be a 5.00 insulator is now technically seen as a 15.00 insulator. And many people cannot get them any other way than online whereas they used to be easily accessible by anyone.

Now if this one were purple...(also common but the color sells them)...40-50. Which, up until about three years ago was 25.00!
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I have one...can I sell it and buy a 1909-S VDB?
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Another example of colliding hobbies:
Cleaning out a storage shed brought out the medallion shown below. In 1991, Topps responded to the challenge Upper Deck posed to Topps' primacy in sports cards by issuing a "limited edition" set of cards under the brand name "Stadium Club." Included in the so-called "Charter Member" Stadium Club set was the Nolan Ryan medallion shown below, a bronze replica of the card celebrating Ryan's 300th win:
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I gave up sportscards when grading and "chase" cards took over. The medal is kind of cool, though. Easy to find and inexpensive.
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Very cool medallion. I am neither a fan of professional games of any kind nor could I likely name more than 3 or 4 professional teams in most of them (Winchester, Remington, and Shakespeare [fishing!) were my childhood companions), but even I have at least heard of Nolan Ryan . I can appreciate a "great" in any discipline and this medallion is a cool way of doing it.

Yeah...I was glued to the set with the ORIGINAL Dream Team in the olympics!

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Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves
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