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I'd seriously consider submitting it. "With Cents" carries a bunch more value in grade than "No Cents," and this one's definitely up there.
Wish I'd seen this thread when it was new; I'd have begged you not to let acetone (or anything else) anywhere near this coin. If you successfully remove the spots, it'll still be spotted - the spots will be lighter than the surrounding area instead of darker, and then it'll be plain that the coin has been treated, destroying its' collector value.
The most important decision about any conservation process is when to do it, and this isn't a time to do it.
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I would leave it alone. I personally don't slab, but it's a good one.
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purists such as myself will tell you that the coin is a natural un althered coin with some dirt and grime in the details, once that is removed the coin is altered from it's natural state and as such it becomes a cleaned coin.
one of the easiest things in the world to spot is a coin that has been acetone bathed just look at the the interior and the edges of the details where the dirt and grime has stopped the coin from toning/aging in the same manner as the rest of the coin, once you take the dirt off those portions of the coin they are different in color/patina and luster than the rest of the coin it's very easily spotted by someone who is looking for it.
One of the best methods of avoiding this type of thing is to only buy coins that you can leave alone once purchase encapsulate them as they are preserve them for future generations of collectors and enjoy them while you have them.
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Uh-oh, better not read this then!
I carefully put it in acetone; it accomplished nothing.
Maybe I should take more pics so you guys can judge for yourselves the condition it's in...pics will come in a few hours, an hour if possible.
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Here are some more pics, please make the best use of them, and hopefully they turn out well. I found a great program for cropping pictures on Ubuntu - Go Linux!! When the coin was in acetone, it was normally resting on cotton. However, when I would take the coin out, sometimes the cotton would cover it. I really really really really really really really hope that nothing I did messed the coin up, and that wet cotton didn't hurt my coin. Also, I rubbed (yes, I see you cringe at that word!  ) with a wet q-tip along the dark spot to the right of the date. I shouldn't have   ! but it was only around that spot. See, I had to tell the whole story...so if it would come back cleaned or details, please tell me...I would feel terrible if it come back as either one (as long as I had been the one that had given it details), but it's best to just state any problems you have with the coin. I'm still struggling to find the right camera settings to take pictures, but under some light, the coin looks dirty. The fields are clean, but there is something on there that just won't come off from a couple weeks of acetone. Yes, I said weeks, hopefully that won't hurt anything either.  She's got some bad marks on her that simply won't come off. So, now comes the coin herself...       |
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I'm glad you are telling and showing the whole story so we can learn.
As I read this post, seeing the first pics, I thought acetone would do nothing to help this coin.
(not that it needed help)
My expierence with acetone is that it removes gummy stuff (stuff you can scrape off with your finger nail)
and paint like subatances. I believe it can remove pvc damage but I've never had a greenish coin to try.
My other thought has always been if the substance isn't gone in a minute or two it's not going anywhere.
I don't think you did anything to harm the coin, your the only one who had the coin before and after in hand.
What do you honestly think? Does it look faded or washed out?
You had mentioned ealier you might slab this coin, if you do that we can all learn even more,
that is, what the pros at PCGS think. I suggest you send it in and continue the thread.
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It doesn't look faded to me, seeing it in hand, as the pics were done using a camera with the flash covered by a sheet of paper (which takes good pics, but perhaps doesn't show much dirt. I have to figure out a good camera setup with one of those lights that shows all marks, etc.
The upper left corner of the last pic of the reverse shows what the coin looks like in a lot of areas. Not the big mark, but the little marks. I knew that pictures showing the coin all shiny are nice, but not legit.
One quick question - when one sends a coin to PCGS, what does he send it in? 2x2? little plastic "coin baggie"? Thanks!
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She's still a beaut!
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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Thanks! I had some extra cash after selling my car, so I stopped at my LCS and when I saw her, I was like, "wow!" She wasn't getting passed me...
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By the way, if any of you would like to contribute to grading the coin, opinions are needed, and also opinions on whether or not there is environmental damage. Thanks, and I hope it's ok to post this coin in this forum and the grading sub forum. https://goccf.com/t/147561 |
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Yes, I get 100% pure acetone from the beauty supply. I think they use it with acrylic nails. I don't know if I would bother with that coin. It is only dirt on it and to some collectors, the present of dirt shows originality. I agree with others that acetone won't hurt it and would definitely use my figures and not pliers. Acetone works well with nickels. I generally only soak coins with some sort of issue looking to improve them or something on the coin that would hurt it or is objectionable like verdigris, PVC slime, excessive gunk that may be covering up something important, or corrosion.
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I believe it can remove pvc damage but I've never had a greenish coin to try. I have bought large lots of V nickels some of which had a lot green stuff on it and acetone worked well. You soak it a while and it will scrape right off with a q-tip. I actually just bought a lot of V nickels and one has a paint like substance on it. I think acetone will take it off. I have had luck soaking coins with environmental damage soaking in distilled water for a while and acetone. These coins I buy cheap though and $85 seems a little high for a coin you are going to clean. If that was me, I would just leave it. |
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Acetone only removes things that are organic in nature. It's the appropriate solution for PVC byproducts, but it does nothing whatsoever for verdigris, and it's no better for dirt than plain water.
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Yes, for verdigris use Verdicare which works for mild verdigris. I know if you go to a dealer and want some nickels with green stuff I am sure you can find them in their lower grade bulk V nickel bins. I saw a ton. I had one with a sheet of green stuff and it came off with acetone. Acetone works well on nickels and nickel is a hard metal that doesn't get harmed easily. I have a v-nickel with a sheet of green stuff on it and acetone took it off. I just peeled off. Edited by buddy16cat
04/16/2013 06:44 am
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