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1954 Error Florin. Help Please.

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 Posted 05/02/2013  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks the Unicorn, bit disappointing but ya get that. Reverse isn't anywhere near as pristine as I thought either.
But hey! it has taught me a valuable lesson.



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 Posted 05/02/2013  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darge,That's not a bad picture to start with, keep trying! Can you tell me what method you used here? Try some angle work to. When you catch the right Light, you will see a very nice coin shine back at you! Ps Take the same pic with the same setup you used on this shot in the Late afternoon & Early morning were the sun is at it's lower points, Overcast days work very well, & compere your pics. you'll see a big difference. Keep clicking Photography is an art to. Good luck, Cheers jpl..

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 Posted 05/02/2013  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi jpl I put a chair in the back yard, facing North, the yard slopes down to the South. The sun was a fair way to the North so this meant the sun was on the coin but at a shallow angle if that makes sense, so I was aiming down but facing the sun.
I think this is probably why the photos look overexposed.
Within a few more minutes it was too bright to get any more pics. (this was about 10.00)
I think the same procedure earlier would have achieved some sparkle in the coin, will try tomorrow.
Thanks for the tips and interest mate.
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 Posted 05/02/2013  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You will get nicer results from non natural white light. I would hazzard a guess that there is not a single dealer or magazine that uses sunlight for their photographs.
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 Posted 05/03/2013  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G Day Enworb, We are looking at 2 different base code, Points of View here. #1 for a person to use an unnatural (white Lighting) ie, "as I call Hollywood Brights, to show a coin or another object that looks flawless in that light peception ( Glamorous Magazine Style). Yes the lighting & rigging department of Hollyweird do sell off there products very well indeed. That's there trick. #2 With Natural light you can not fake away the look of a coin or object with (SunLight),as Darge got to Experience today when he took a Photo and seen the True Flaw's & Details you can only get with (Natural White Light), yes from the sun & all shiny things out there. What you see is what you get from this source of light! Other Man made light ( just smoke & mirrors) Hollywood! That's my Perception, Selling Magazines ( An Illusion ) or seeing things in the light that you have been seeing since Birth. Can't hide in the Light. Cheers jpl..
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 Posted 05/03/2013  02:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you take your collection into the sun and look at it or do you usually inside with the lights on?
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 Posted 05/03/2013  04:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Enworb,Did I mention takeing photos in the Bright Sun? yes I did, I said Don't. Is there a part there you just don't get? If I was to bye a coin I would take it into the Natural light (Not an exploding Star as you might think), and see it how it really looks. And if I was going to sell a coin to you, I would let you look at it under a half worn fluro! so you don't get to see the proper detail! Please take of the beer goggles. Have you ever been in a store and there was something you liked, But as you got out of the store It did not look the same, Well that's Reality for ya! Or are you a Supercilious Pearson. ( Look it up). Ps There is nothing wrong about indoor Photography never said that! maybe you could use your skill of coins for your self & keep out of my skill of Photography ya think . jpl..
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 Posted 05/03/2013  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure there are pros and cons for natural and artificial light, but it certainly is easier to control and utilize the latter one. LOL

I would say it is a case of businesslike efficiency versus artistic purism and both will have their admirers. But then I'm probably wrong about that too. So ok I'm wrong enough for both of you and we can now move on.

Tell us your story about your photographic passion jpl. Do you have formal training or the chequered board of life experience?
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 Posted 05/03/2013  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a significant error on a decent coin at a bargain price.


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 Posted 05/03/2013  04:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Forgot the link. Hope I'm allowed to do this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12109967121....m1438.l2649
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 Posted 05/03/2013  05:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Getting this back on topic; Thats got some nice die cracks darge! the seller is pretty good and I dont think the price is too bad either.
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 Posted 05/03/2013  05:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had it on my watchlist to buy but I overspent again ..... or still ... or something. LOL
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 Posted 05/03/2013  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks there Darge, a peace keeper is allways good to have around. I have studied Photography all the way back since Tech. Getting light headed in the (Red Room) exposeing film in the three wash & rinse pans. Pictures were good back then, when the silver nitrate film stock turned into a Visual memory, with out haveing to deal with Pixels. Meaning Digital detail. DSLR'S yes by all means can make an easy picture to turn out,in all photo catergorys. If you have any more questions on how to get a nice shot off, even under man made light, I am more than happy to help out. Make a nice Glammer shot to put on the wall useing indoor directional lamps. Cheers jpl.. Ps Photographey and coins go hand in hand!
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 Posted 05/03/2013  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
darge to the forum. Great coin- the great photos will take a little longer. There is a Coin Photography section here at C.C.F. that will teach you everything you could possibly need to know and much,much more. If you have time to peruse the different threads you will soon realize that the majority of stunning photos are taken using artificial light.!
Some of the members ( primarily from the U.S.) are incredibly gifted (and published) and share the knowledge freely.! Coin Photography is another separate and fascinating part of Numismatics.
In the meantime any photo that is in focus and a good size will allow us to enjoy your coins.!!
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 Posted 05/03/2013  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Robster, thanks everyone for the tips and advice. We will get there in the end. If we aren't there yet - it can't be the end yet. LOL
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