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Is This Septimius Severus Silver Drachma

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 Posted 08/14/2013  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Gotta love that 'google' translate !
Apparently it works (more) better in some cases than others.
Didn't we have someone in the UAE around here ? We could definitely use an interpreter for this post !
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 Posted 08/14/2013  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjscoins to your friends list
im so
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 Posted 08/14/2013  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjscoins to your friends list
Do you think it rare
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 Posted 08/14/2013  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Rare = no

Fake = yes
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 Posted 08/14/2013  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Why fake oh Ancient one?
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 Posted 08/14/2013  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjscoins to your friends list
I want to evaluate the price of $
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 Posted 08/14/2013  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Reasons for Fake...

Legend doesn't look right to me...
The bust style looks off
and as Doucet pointed out it appears to be a mixture of coins types.

If it is determined to be ancient then I would assume it is a "Limes" coin.

A limes coin is a coin that was used officially or unofficially on the fringes of the empire where coins of value were not kept due to lack of security. You wouldn't want fine silver falling into the hands of your enemies. Limes are often made from mixed dies and create a variety of unrecorded varieties. This does not make the coin valuable or rare. It makes the coin an ancient offical/unofficial imitation.

Although many fakers will make fantasy coins, based on the same principle.

Limes denarii were struck in low silver base metal not cast. I suspect this coin is cast...There is what seems to be a pearl or deformation at about the 11 o'clock position.

Limes are poorly understood so you must take this a face value, until the coin is proven fake, its at least an ancient fake to me.
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 Posted 08/14/2013  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjscoins to your friends list

Do you think that this currency is outdated or it is not authentic?

Or is it fake?
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 Posted 08/14/2013  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Well the currency is out dated for sure

I do think it is a fake....

I also think it might be an ANCIENT FAKE...which is a good thing...I cannot be sure without the coin in hand. The metal corrosion is the best thing going for it.

Do I think the coin is valuable?.....I don't think so.
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 Posted 08/14/2013  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
The problem with provincial coins is that there isn't enough reference material available to list every coin struck. Moushmov is the reference that is most used but it is way out of date and I have not come across a copy of the book, so we are limited to what shows up at sales and on Whirlwinds, Acsearch, etc for our references. The reverse on your coin is unique in that one would expect to have seen it before. The reverse seem to fit the location where the coin was struck. Laodikeia ad Mare was located on the Syrian coast so seeing an image of Poseidon holding a lighthouse is very possible. IMO you coin is real, but I have been wrong more times than I care to admit. It's just a coin that has not been cataloged. This doesn't mean that the coin is rare though.
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 Posted 08/14/2013  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
I suspect Limes...
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 Posted 08/14/2013  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjscoins to your friends list
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 Posted 08/17/2013  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
The coin seems to be a complete match for Prieur 1112 from Laodicea-ad-Mare. It is relatively scarce with Prieur citing 3 examples.

Here is an example I found online for comparison.

Is-This--Septimius-Severus-Silver-Drachma

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 Posted 08/17/2013  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Thanks for taking a look at the coin Martin.
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 Posted 08/19/2013  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjscoins to your friends list
thank you maridvnvm
I was very happy I want to know its value in auction

How much estimated for this piece?
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