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2012 Silver Kennedy?

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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list

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If after ten years or so and the price remains high, I'll submit to the going rate at that time.


Ha....ha good for you, you don't see that kind of patience much in collecting.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atticguy to your friends list
denco7: as most coin collectors, sometimes I think one thing and do another. :) The trick I think is to not open up my Kennedy album and see that ONE missing coin.

Bizybackson: You are so right about the relative values of other recent mintages/prices; however where did you get the idea of the 2013's being higher priced? I just got my 2013 silver in December for $21. Have the prices spiked since that time?
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 Posted 01/05/2014  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Proof Kennedy are not usually priced solely in relation to their silver content....although some have had such high mintages there value is reduced to intrinsic

..and regarding the mintage...there were more 1909 S VDB's minted than this Kennedy half. Does that make them all overpriced?....

Mintage/value should be regarding the SAME coin in relation to the others of its kind..and to compare it to a 5 ounce silver coin that presently has limited followers is stretching it a tad.

The 2012 Kennedy is priced the way it is because it has the lowest mintage numbers of ANY Kennedy half and its sellout caught procrastinators off guard...

I believe it will price adjust after the present demand is absorbed and return to a more realistic price BUT it will/should be priced higher than its peers
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 Posted 01/05/2014  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list
Since 2010 I have a subscription with the mint for the annual silver proof set.
That might be the way to go.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
To be accurate, the lowest mintage silver Kennedy is the
1998 S matte proof. Different site show different number
It is either 62 or 64K mintage. (My avatar)

Over time the 2012 silver proof set may come down in price.
My guess would if it does, not to the level of the higher mintage
sets.

Other low mintage years, 1999 and 2008 are still holding a higher
price. Although the 1999 set has dropped a lot from of it's high
of .... I think $300.

I need another 2012 silver Kennedy .. But I am not ready to spend that premium.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list

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To be accurate, the lowest mintage silver Kennedy is the
1998 S matte proof.


But technically, that is a commemorative piece, as it was not a regular issue and only available in the JFK-RFK commemorative set. While I agree, that is the crown on any all inclusive JFK set, I would still consider the 2012 as the lowest mintage of the series. Dansco doesn't even have a slot for it in their Kennedy album.

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 Posted 01/05/2014  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
When the announcement came on CCF that the 2012 proof sets had been discontinued, I immediately did some internet homework and saw the mintages were record lows. I went to ebay and got two of the silver proofs for ~30.00 each - and glad I did.

But it figures that I started a silver proof set subscription in 2005 and then stopped it a few years later since I saw I was losing money on the deal (admittedly had no interest in proofs other than the silver value in them). So now that I missed out on the 2010, 2011, and 2012 sets, I started up again last year. I also now collect the proof halves instead of just seeing them as silver.

But rest assured everyone... since I am subscribed to getting a couple sets each year, the mintages will surely climb to new heights so the coins will be easy for all to get. I will once again send too much money to the mint for things I could get for less at a later date

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 Posted 01/06/2014  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainbow1218 to your friends list
The engineer in me can easily get behind the $50 price point. I have all of the time in the world. Empty holes don't bother me much since the albums I just bought are full of them :)
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 Posted 01/07/2014  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevelle7167 to your friends list
I got lucky this time last year. As soon as I saw that they stopped minting them, I went on ebay and bought as many of the 2012 silver 2012 Kennedy's that were NGC PF69. I was able to buy 8 of them for $20 to $24 each. I just sold all 8 of them individually back on ebay this past month for $84 each :)
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 Posted 01/08/2014  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list

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But technically, that is a commemorative piece, as it was not a regular issue and only available in the JFK-RFK commemorative set. While I agree, that is the crown on any all inclusive JFK set, I would still consider the 2012 as the lowest mintage of the series. Dansco doesn't even have a slot for it in their Kennedy album.


I guess everyone looks at things different. I don't consider the JFK matte proof a commemorative, it just came with the RFK commemorative dollar. It was not available on it's own like the RFK dollar or other commemorative half dollars.

If you wanted to put the JFK matte proof into a Dansco, you just put it in the 1998 S silver proof spot. Same as you can put Satin finished coins from the 2005 - 2010 mint sets.
The Dansco albums do not tell you what finish coins to put in each hole, it just has year and mint.

Then lets look at the 1996 W Roosevelt, it was not regular issue. It came only in the mint sets, and is the lowest mintage Roosevelt dime. But then it has a spot in the Dansco.

I guess ...in my opinion ... you can't use Dansco to tell us what a coin is, or how the mint releases a coin to determine what it is.

The 1998 S matte proof Kennedy half dollar, did not have a design change. Just a different finish. To me it is part of the Kennedy half dollar series, and is the lowest mintage.
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 Posted 01/08/2014  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I agree with GR58.

Although I am a Dansco fan, I counter that argument with the Red Book. It lists the 1998 matte proof with the other Kennedy half dollars, not with the other Commemorative coins.

However, in the end, this is only my opinion. To each their own. Define the set any way that satisfies you.
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 Posted 01/08/2014  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
Wow. Every year since my son was born in 2005 I buy a Silver proof Mint Set for him. The cost is always far above current silver value and I never expected any of the sets to go up in value. It's more of just a fun thing to keep him interested in collecting.

All of which is to say I had no idea whatsoever that the 2012 was now selling for $150-$200 on ebay. Who knew?
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 Posted 01/09/2014  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
I am with GR58 and jbuck here. The 98 matte proof IS a Kennedy half. No different than the 96W dime or the 95W proof ASE. They are simply limited editions of the coin. Dansco should have included a separate spot for the 98 IMO.
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 Posted 01/09/2014  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Yeah, the Dansco 8166 is far from perfect for complete Kennedy half dollar collector. It has both 1979-S varieties, but does not recognize the two for 1981-S. It does not have room for the 1998-S matte proof, but has places for the 1965~1967 SMS issues.
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 Posted 01/09/2014  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list

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Dansco doesn't even have a slot for it in their Kennedy album.



Obviously I didn't mean that Dansco was the arbiter of what is and what isn't included in a collection. It was just an offhand example of someone else that agreed that "special issues" are not an integral part of a complete collection.

And yes, I do believe that the "96W rosy and the 95W ASE are more of a West Point/San Fran special commemorative issues than a pert of a complete collection. An ULTIMATE collection perhaps, but I do not expect any future collector album of ASE's to contain a space for the 2013 enhanced proof.
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