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Valued Member
 United States
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Thanks for the great info Mike. I'm checking out the bidding history, and it looks like you actually won the auction. When you get the coin in hand, I would love an update to this thread. At the very least to feed my curiosity 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'll weigh it and report back. But I can tell you that the off-center nickels with this pattern of upset weighed the same as a normal nickel planchet.
I see this as a distinctly different pattern of upset, rather than one that occupies the far end of the normal range of variation with respect to bevel length and angle (which can be considerable). I also don't see this as circumferential pre-strike damage that happens to resemble upset. The question is whether it's an experimental style of upset, use of an upset mill set up for some foreign denomination, improperly machined grooves, or something else.
Error coin writer and researcher.
Edited by mikediamond 02/10/2014 12:00 pm
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Valued Member
 United States
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I appreciate it Mike, thank you. Chances are it's going to be normal weight because you say the nickels you've seen with the same upset had normal weights. Very interesting coin nonetheless, it's going to be tough to determine exactly what happened.
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Valued Member
United States
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Guys, I have no clue about off center coins, but this one looks odd when compared to others up for auction. This one either has a rotated die or something. The reverse is not aligned correctly to the obverse. Is this normal for off centered coins?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Well,...that wasn't the result I was expecting. Mike got a nice pickup there...I hope I hear more. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
Rotation looks OK (or at least pretty close) to me.
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Moderator
 United States
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Is it just me, or does the radius of the planchet seem smaller than the radius of the Linc (the part that's good)? A little play in the Gimp indicates - based on the ratio of the length of "IBERTY" to the full diameter of a Cent - that the planchet is a bit small. There's room for error in this, though.
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Valued Member
United States
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Loco, I see what you are saying with the rotation.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I really would like to know the WEIGHT.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1699 Posts |
Glad this piece is getting some discussion here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2740 Posts |
I now have the coin and my quickie scale (accurate to the nearest 0.1g) provides a weight of 3.0 grams. It therefore falls within the normal range of variation for copper-alloy cents. That's what I fully expected. But it's a nice addition to my small stockpile of off-center coins with abnormal upset.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Valued Member
 United States
360 Posts |
Thanks for the weight update Mike. Even with the normal weight it's still a very nice coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2740 Posts |
The off-center cent was minted between 1959 and 1968 and its exact weight is 3.04 grams. While the Mint has produced foreign planchets that weigh exactly 3 grams and that are composed of 95% copper, none of these candidates were minted during the requisite time period. So I'm confident this is a cent planchet.
This "long bevel" style of upset makes no functional sense, as the highest point on the planchet's proto-rim lies well inside the position of the future design rim. One of the reasons for upsetting a blank is to guide the formation of the design rim. This style of upset is decidely at odds with that goal.
Error coin writer and researcher.
Edited by mikediamond 02/15/2014 3:17 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: One of the reasons for upsetting a blank is to guide the formation of the design rim. This style of upset is decidely at odds with that goal. Odd, that. Did you happen to check the planchet's diameter?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Minimum diameter of the unstruck portion of the planchet is 18.75mm. So it would have fit comfortably inside a cent collar, had it been inserted properly.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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