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Affordable 1800-S Coins

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 Posted 07/02/2014  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list
Since I only own one large cent, braided hair cents like these, and an 1847 to boot, I'm not exactly a good person to comment here, but I will regardless. I bought by 1847 about 10 years ago, paid $16 for it in Fine condition; Red Book says it's now worth around $25, so a little appreciation is good. It's all brown (uniform, other than the two that are tarnished/got crud on them), no verdigris (like two of your have), and lacks tons of obvious nicks (like your third one has). Mine also doesn't photograph as reddish, making me think that one of your might have been cleaned.

I've been interested in buying more large cents (as my 1847 is my favorite coin I own, even though the date for me is meaningless), and although they can be cheap of ebay, I've avoided picking any up since they're mostly heavily worn or problem coins...and while I'd pick up a nice problem Morgan or heavily worn Seated Liberty dime or a nicely worn Indian Head cent (etc) in a heart-beat, I've never been able to actually pull the trigger (so to speak) and get a problem Large Cent, Half Cent, or Flying Eagle cent (even though I've contemplated it many times, with the rational that if I buy a number of really cheap problem Large Cents (for example, nice local auction a month ago had a really great deal on them), then with them sequestered, the theoretical implication would be that there'd be less of them on the market, less of the available (not to mention less bad in general) and would raise the value of the surviving market population and of the value of better-quality specimen in general...at the same time allowing me to create plastic coin tube "rolls" of large cents and feeling special for having them, albeit low-quality problem coins.

But I cannot pull the trigger. Maybe one day I will. Maybe I won't. I'm a little partial to coppers I think. With all that said, your 1846 would have been the only coin I would have contemplated buying, if I could more tell that it hadn't been cleaned...although a coin in that shape I would have preferred having had a nice 150 year tarnish on it. So, bad deal, okay deal, it's all up to how you view it; and what your goals on collecting are or your taste in how your coins look. I wouldn't have bought the lot, that's just me; but if all you wanted was to get some cheap 1800's coins with the intention of building upon them (and probably up'ing them in the process), than you did just fine.
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 Posted 07/02/2014  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list
Personally I would have passed on the deal, as mentioned you could have gotten that one date you really wanted in far better shape for the same price or not much more with some patience.

Go slow.... And don't just buy everything you see and "love" immediately, this is a mistake that many newbies make at first, I did when I first started as well.... But then later on down the line when you really focus, and learn how to grade/what to look for these lesser coins just arnt going to have a place in your collection anymore and you'll take a hit when you go to sell.

At first I wanted exactly what you just said... At least one of each series as well as complete sets (of the ones I was working on, it's still primarily Morgans) and if I found a date/coin I needed I'd buy it... Until I realized I could spend not much more for far better coins, and now I won't look twice at a Morgan under MS-63 (unless it's a key, the toning is stunning, DMPL or a rare(er) VAM) more likely not under a 64-65. Now when I buy any classic coins I save save save and buy the best examples I can afford... I don't think I've spent under $200 on a classic in at least a year... Usually much more. So again, personally I'd save up more than $40 and buy coins in much nicer grades that you'll love forever... But to each his own.. But either way take it sssllloooowww!
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 Posted 07/02/2014  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
The Two Cent series is a short and yet pretty affordable one to get a complete collection in business strikes. Save for the small motto and the 1872, the rest should be easy enough to find in decent shape in F-EF condition in your price range.


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Now when I buy any classic coins I save save save and buy the best examples I can afford... I don't think I've spent under $200 on a classic in at least a year... Usually much more. So again, personally I'd save up more than $40 and buy coins in much nicer grades that you'll love forever


That does have merit, as you will end up with coins that you really like owning! But you can always start where you can afford to and upgrade as time goes on.
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 Posted 07/02/2014  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tkbslc to your friends list
good advice, thanks. I think the $30 was worth it for the lessons you guys are passing on right now. The more I think, I'd probably prefer owning 20 amazing coins rather than 300 ugly coins. So I think NathanASE maybe has a good strategy for me.

Although honestly, I'm still so new to to this that just the idea of owning 160-170 year old coins is blowing my mind! I still have to figure out what my goals are, though. Right now I'm all over the place.
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 Posted 07/02/2014  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list
West, your absolutely right, I just learned the hard way that it made more sense (to and for me at least) to save for months if need be opposed to buying coins I'd likely loose money on when I went to upgrade.. It sucks not being able to buy as often, but the quality and not loosing money makes up for it. But hey, it's not for everyone and I respect that, I was just giving my opinion based in the OP's recent purchase..

Tkbslc, that's exactly the way I look at it, I'd rather have X amount of great coins with value that I absutely love over thousands of common, low grades. And it's definitely good to focus your interests opposed to being all over the place, as fun as that is I'd recommend choosing a few series you absolutely love. You can also start a "type set" (ex. Dansco's 7070), many of us, myself included are working on them. They're expensive but at least they focus your "type" collecting.

And also, if you think about it, in the " Coin World" 160-170 year old US coins are considered "modern", lol... If you really get a kick out of and enjoy the history aspect of "old" coins you may want to consider checking out ancients.... They're not my cup of tea (though I have a couple) but you can get them with amazing details still for great prices and those are a couple thousand years old.... Just some more food for thought, lol
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 Posted 07/02/2014  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mwm9214 to your friends list
I also just started collecting and after doing some research decided on collecting Three Cent Silvers. The first thing that made them stand out to me was the artwork. The second was in the fine grades they are relatively affordable. I think the biggest key is finding a series that you really enjoy looking at because you are going to be staring at them quite a bit. I also to a little impatient and rushed out and bought a a few coins. They aren't the greatest quality but I just wanted to start collecting. I don't regret buying them though because I have gotten great constructive info about them on this site and feel as though I have learned a lot already (mainly just how much more there is to learn). Good luck figuring out what you want to collect and I hope you are enjoying getting started in the hobby as much as I am.
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 Posted 07/02/2014  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johntookit to your friends list
Wanting to buy a 1800's quality coin for $40 is going to be very limited. As a entry level collector we want to buy many types of coins and as often as possible. So do some research and get the best deals that's out there.
As time passes our income will grow and our tastes for quality coins will improve as well.
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 Posted 07/02/2014  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list
Great thread!
As noted, you can own an 1883 V nick in great condition and under your budget.
You can also add many type coins in collectable condition for less than $40, in most cases much less than $40.
Have fun!
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 Posted 07/02/2014  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list
I have bought a lot of large cents in VF or even XF for under 40 bucks. Try to look for coins with no big problems like corrosion, pitting, scratches, rim dings, and obvious cleaning. Look for a nice tan copper toning if you can. Some of the dates are worth more than others. No nice 1857 large cents at that price range. Sometimes if the pics are so-so you can find a deal if you look closely. I have also bought and sold a lot of low grade coins to local shops and made a few bucks that way to finance the nicer coins I do keep. It takes time and patience to find the nicer ones.
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 Posted 07/03/2014  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Large cents are my newest passion, unfortunately all of the ones I really want are way more than $40 each, I really like the 1794 series, so instead I joined the EAC, bought a bunch of early copper books and auction catalogs, and am studying them that way instead. Of course I continue to save so I can get a few examples down the road, and by then I will know a lot more about them, and better understand exactly what I want out of them. In the mean time, my Two Cent variety collection continues to grow, and I spend under $50 on most purchases of them, many under $25, I picked up about 25 more the past 2 months! My numismatic book collection continues to grow, and that is something I've become quite proud of too. There are a lot of ways to collect coins, with out actually buying coins I've found through books and past auction catalogs.
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 Posted 07/03/2014  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
I think you can pick up decent Half Cents and flying eagles for reasonable prices. There are a lot of varieties of the flying eagles that you may be able to cherry pick since there are not a whole lot of specialists of that series.
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 Posted 07/06/2014  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BluegrassRiver to your friends list
YOu should get your hands on a Numismatic News paper and look at the coin pricing section. It is organized by coin type. In one easy to read place you will see what you can get for around the $40 target.
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 Posted 07/07/2014  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tkbslc to your friends list
I was at Hobby Lobby (current politics be damned) and noticed they had the newest 2015 Red Book and a 40% coupon on one item. So I got that for really cheap. I understand the coin values are not as up to date as they could be, but at least it gives a good idea of what to shop for and what is out there. Plus it's a nice encyclopedia of coins for someone new to the game. I've enjoyed reading it so far.



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 Posted 07/08/2014  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list
A large number of Indian Head cents can be found in high-AU condition for less than $40. When buying these raw try to pay no more than the AU-53 price if you can unless you are sure the coin is an AU-50. There are also a very large number of date/MM combinations in Morgan dollars that would squeeze in at $40 or less. Good luck hunting!
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 Posted 07/10/2014  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
How about getting a VF-XF Civil War token in the neighborhood of $20?

Personally, my best buys have been made at coin shows ... lots of dealer competition in that venue!
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