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Pillar of the Community
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They would be different shapes and depth of the die damage got worse just like a Cud or crack increase and changes in size...not saying it's from the mint I just don't think being different shape and size would matter-they r generally in the same spot...I don't have enough experience in errors to even Give much of an opinion yet but also why could they not have left the mint that way? |
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I would disagree with what has been said so far. This looks like a strike through error to me. I've seen this pattern before, I believe on a cent. Likely, something was dragged across the face of the die and the die pair struck a series of coins with the substance on the surface.
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Looks like s struck through debris to me. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
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 with John. I feel that it's more likely to be a struck through than PMD |
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Hard for me to see in the pictures but if it is PMD I find it odd that there is no damage to the hair. It looks like it just stops at the back of the neck so that makes me think it's a strike through. Since the damage is done at different angles on the neck I don't think it is from the same die unless whatever was on the die moved with each strike. Does the area in question have parallel lines in the same direction of the damage to indicate it is a gauge or is it smooth like the metal flowed to form it? |
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were they from an uncirculated roll? I don't remember to be honest, but there were 19 others in the tube of strictly Gettysburg ATBs and they were all pristine. Quote:
Is the area on the neck raised, or incuse? The area in question is incuse. Quote:
Does the area in question have parallel lines in the same direction of the damage to indicate it is a gauge or is it smooth like the metal flowed to form it? There are parallel lines and scratches in the same direction as the marks in question. |
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There are parallel lines and scratches in the same direction as the marks in question. Based on that I would have to say its PMD |
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Bedrock of the Community
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What looks interesting to me is that the lower hair line is next to the mark on the neck, but does not go through the hair. The other areas seem to be behind the bust. I found a coin once that made me think it was Feeder Finger Damage, but later I realized it was debris on die.  Note how the areas behind the design are affected? On the OP's coin it looks like a piece of hard debris was stuck into the mid part of the die (Leaving an area incuse on the neck) bu not affecting the hair behind the neck. If it were just grease, to me it would have splashed and not remain solid just in that area. Not spreading, but may have moved a little between strikes. If 19 were found, then it looks more likely that it was something on the die instead of just damage to the 19 coins that were all similar. |
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Quote: I found a coin once that made me think it was Feeder Finger Damage, but later I realized it was debris on die. The mark on the first two images of the Lincoln Cent look very very close to the marks on my two ATB Quarters. I feel like the marks on my coins are strike through errors. If so, does that make these coins worth keeping in you all's opinions? Quote:
If 19 were found, then it looks more likely that it was something on the die instead of just damage to the 19 coins that were all similar. Actually there were only two with this damage, the two I posted here. The 19 I was referring to was the rest of the tube of Gettysburg ATB Quarters from which I found these two damaged coins. The 19 are not damaged but are otherwise in the same uncirculated condition as the two in question. |
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In my opinion, they're keepers if for no other reason than they are interesting.
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one time I went to the Denver mint and got some uncirculated State Quarters out of the machine for 25 cents each (I can tell you where the machine is if you are visiting!). Anyhow, I got half a dozen quarters that were 'struck through debris', and saw how the struck through was slightly different on each coin, like the debris was moving on the die with each coin struck. The two in this picture remind me of the ones I saw. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I found only two in my roll. The rest from the same die pair were normal. So the die either got wiped off, or the rest were from before the event happened to get the grease/debris on the die.
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1000_Rubles, I would put it in a 2x2 and label it. John1 |
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I found only two in my roll. The rest from the same die pair were normal. So the die either got wiped off, or the rest were from before the event happened to get the grease/debris on the die. So then the same thing probably happened to these ATB Quarters, because even though I don't remember having a roll of them the rest of the quarters I have in my tube are all gem uncirculated like these are, just without any damage of course. Quote:
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I would put it in a 2x2 and label it. Yeah that's a good idea, thank you! I've never been much of an error coin collector but I just love how I can make new discoveries of things I never noticed in my own collection! |
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