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My Second Ancient Coin, Raw This Time And Greek

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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
That's why I post here.

Haven't paid for it even yet.

Looking for more opinions on the coin and any potential transaction advice if consensus is fake.
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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
The identity of a seller would certainly help determine if it is fake. All the guys and girls here are honest people who would not "steal" this coin from you; so don't worry about posting the name of the seller.
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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list
The reverse is a die match of this one
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http://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=275614

Seleukos I Nikator. 312-281 BC. AR Tetradrachm (27mm, 17.06 g, 2h). In the name of Alexander III of Macedon. Babylon I mint. Struck circa 311-300 BC. Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin / Zeus Aėtophoros seated left; monogram in wreath in left field, MI below throne. SC 82.5b; Price 3747; HGC 9, 10f. VF, lightly toned.
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03/20/2015 6:42 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I don't like it either. I think you should hang on to your money.
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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
Oh then it's real. That is a good dealer.
I would get it then. Good luck!
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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
Did a google search on the price 3747 and found another pic if it is helpful to anyone.

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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
That seller has great ebay auctions that start really low with no reserve. You pay in dollars and bid in euros against mainly euro bidders. The euro has been crushed. Lots of opportunities and nice coins there if this dealer is legit, which they seem to be.

Sure fakes can get through QC anywhere, but hopefully I did good today.
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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
I think you did good to. If I were you I would be happy.
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03/20/2015 4:18 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
Wouldn't have found the coin without the help of CCF.

Wouldn't have had the courage to bid on the coin without knowing CCF would have my back.

Very happy indeed.

Thank you all for your help. To think I paid $130 for a roll of Washington quarters last week and this coin was only a roll and a half basically.

Here is a link to all this sellers auctions. It turns out that ebay filters out these foreign currency sellers in basic search results so I don't think they have as much competition as some auctions. I am done buying for the weekend / paycheck. Check out some of the stuff coming up.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item...Loc=2&_sop=1
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03/20/2015 4:29 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2015  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
The dealer has an excellent reputation, but they make mistakes from time to time. It could just be the picture and how the environment where it was found affected the metal. A real Alex III tet for $178 is and excellent buy though.
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 Posted 03/20/2015  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
Well I paid for the coin.

ebay said the cost was approximately 169 US$ plus approximately $7.90 something shipping. Don't know how, but I ended up paying $186 end of the day. Hopefully no customs charges coming my way either.
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 Posted 03/20/2015  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
I think the coin is real and porous. It is not Alex III but Seleukos I. Babylon, Iraq mint.
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03/20/2015 5:58 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2015  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
Yeah the porosity is my biggest concern at the moment.

I have some nice equipment in my PVC and textile lab. When I get the coin, I will have to learn about cast copies and investigate further.
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03/20/2015 6:42 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2015  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The thought has crossed my mind in learning a bit more on
how to distinguish between a cast surface (there are various methods of casting), and various type of coin surfaces that have acquired porosity from environmental conditions.

It would be worthwhile examining coins from your 'black' collection that are cast, and genuine coins with porosity, with a 15x or 20x loupe for comparison.
Learn and remember what the various visual surface characteristics of both cast and genuine coins look like.
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