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Not Receiving Better Date Coin In A Lot.

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 Posted 05/04/2015  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list
I think that's what he meant. Not a true key date but something like a 1922 Wheat cent or a 1909 or a 1909 vdb but when it came that one was replaced by a common one.
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 Posted 05/04/2015  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dei gratia regina to your friends list
Ah.. thanks. Which is it in the dime lot?
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 Posted 05/04/2015  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I'm not sure I understand the complaint. Did you see a key date in that mess?


No, this one seems only about the fact that the seller stated that the lot of junk silver pictured would be the lot of junk silver received, and it wasn't. Certainly enough to leave a Negative about so quickly that it's obvious the seller was never allowed a chance to make it right. The auction ended last Thursday, and today's Monday.
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 Posted 05/04/2015  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list
Did you try and contact the seller at all? It is quite possible the seller made an honest mistake and erroneously mailed the wrong lot- as you stated, they had multiple lots listed

Contrary to the opinion of some, not every ebay seller is out to fleece the buyer
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 Posted 05/04/2015  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list
I actually did contact the seller. He said he should have just listed it was 15 Mercury dimes with no dates shown in the pics. I thought he maybe sent me the wrong lot, but since he said that it appears he just sent whatever. I am returning them but that is a pain. He said that he is allowing a return, so he sees no problem.


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No, this one seems only about the fact that the seller stated that the lot of junk silver pictured would be the lot of junk silver received, and it wasn't. Certainly enough to leave a Negative about so quickly that it's obvious the seller was never allowed a chance to make it right. The auction ended last Thursday, and today's Monday.


I realize that the 1916 on the far right corner does not match the reverse which is a "D". One of the 1916 or 1917 is a D though going by condition along with a few higher grade coins. I did not leave negative till I went back and forth with the seller and realized that he just sent anything. There was also some coins that appears higher grade a least VF/XF at least one that was in the 20s or 30s. The other lot I bid on had higher grade coins, luckily I was outbid. I thought of just tell him I will pay melt for random coins not pictured. I gave the seller time to respond and went back and forth with him.


FYI: Though, I didn't leave negative till I went back and forth with him a few times and realized he just sent anything. I realize though in this lot, he might have strategically placed a "D" reverse in the 1916 spot but the 1917 is probably an "S" and there are other better date coins in it. Like a fine 1925-S will get a premium but a beat-up 1944 will not. I don't consider coins that demand premiums "junk".
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05/04/2015 9:34 pm
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 Posted 05/04/2015  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list

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I'm not sure I understand the complaint. Did you see a key date in that mess?


What is it that you don't understand? He listed 15 coins and sent whatever. No 1916 or 1917 one of which I know is a D. No 1919 or 1925 with mint mark. No high grade common coins or in the 20s or 30s. Just low grade junk in the 40s mixed with some lower grade coins in the late thirties, late twenties. One beat up 1918 not even in this lot. Kind of like what one person said, listing a 1909 VDB in the lot and sending a lower grade 1957 instead.
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 Posted 05/04/2015  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list
Frankly, this whole thread seems to be highlighting one of the more problematic issues with ebay, which IMO allows some BUYERS to abuse the ebay feedback system.


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No 1916 or 1917 one of which I know is a D


To leave a negative over not receiving a 16-d Mercury in a $20 junk Mercury lot is one of the more absurd things I have ever heard

I think the vigilantism many on this site do in trying to clean up the counterfeiters, scam artists and fraudsters is WONDERFUL, but I think the idea of feedback vigilantism over issues of semantics or hammering sellers without even a reasonable benefit of the doubt given is despicable.

All IMO, of course
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 Posted 05/04/2015  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Buddy16cat, your contributions here as a member are undeniable and your record as an ebay seller impeccable. But you are plainly out looking for lots to flip individually, and even though your objections are factually accurate you are what sellers call a problem buyer. You hammer sellers when they don't give you what you want. Threads have been originated here about buyers like you. And as soon as I get my hands on your buying account name - and I will - you're going on my Blocked list.
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 Posted 05/04/2015  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list
Well that is fine with me. If you think it is fine to list one thing and send whatever you want, than fine. If you think it is OK to send something else than listed,I wouldn't want to buy off you anyhow. It ticks me off. Fine put me on your blocked buyer list. I don't think that it is wrong to expect what is listed be sent, whatever it is. You can keep your coins. I will make a point not to bid and if you have a problem with me I will just delete all these posts and not post again! I don't need this, there are other boards. What is your ebay ID so I can make a point to buy nothing? I am getting tired of ebay anyhow, there are other coin buying options in my area.

I do realize mistakes happen, and some sellers actually fix these. I have sent the wrong coins before. I resend the right one and if the buyer wants to return what I sent by mistake, I just appreciate it.
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 Posted 05/04/2015  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list

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To leave a negative over not receiving a 16-d Mercury in a $20 junk Mercury lot is one of the more absurd things I have ever heard

I think the vigilantism many on this site do in trying to clean up the counterfeiters, scam artists and fraudsters is WONDERFUL, but I think the idea of feedback vigilantism over issues of semantics or hammering sellers without even a reasonable benefit of the doubt given is despicable.


OK you need to work on your reading skills. I said I know that that 1916 reverse does not correspond with the observe since the reverse was a "D". I think it was a coin in the 20s that had the fine reverse. I do think the 1917 had a D mark though, which would be acceptable.
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 Posted 05/05/2015  12:28 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Problem buyers are ebays excuse to stab honest sellers to death in my opinion. No wonder sellers refer to them as bidiots! I'm with SsuperDdave on this issue.
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 Posted 05/05/2015  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list
Honest sellers? Sending completely different coins than in the listing. THAT IS FRAUD. Since you agree with it, perhaps you are fraudulent seller too. Keep your coins PacificCoins and your comments you old . I AM OUT OF HERE! CLOSE MY ACCOUNT HERE!
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 Posted 05/05/2015  02:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list
If anyone is an idiot is it you PacificCoins. Sending coins completely different than listed IS FRAUD. If you are for that type of behavior you are truly the idiot.


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I find it interesting that buddy16cat outright deleted his posts complaining about a mercury dime lot he received that was allegedly swapped by the seller for a lesser lot (for which he left the seller's only negative a few days after auction end). Personally, I could not tell much, if any, difference between the ebay lot and the scans of the received lot shown by buddy16cat.. but people with sharper eyes exist.

These were the posts referred to by the above members on this page, just to eliminate confusion. When people start deleting posts mid-thread it causes confusion later when people view the thread, as well as brings their motives under suspicion.

Edit: The deleted posts have been restored.

And for posterity, he provided his user name for those who wish to block him on ebay.


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User petitchien70. Put me on your blocked bidder list. I don't need your crap.


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 Posted 05/05/2015  02:45 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
I think your personal insult is certainly uncalled for. If you were at a poker table I would think you were on tilt. Where in my previous post was I referring to you? just curious. I am most certainly not condoning the behaviour that you are referring to. My membership in the ANA precludes me from participating in that kind of stuff. When you buy something off of me you get two things .one a quality item as pictured and described at a competitive price and fast secure shipping again at a reasonable price.
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