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What a shame, I would have liked to see the pictures.
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What a shame, I would have liked to see the pictures. Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat....  CCF ebay Tools |
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Not a legitimate error. That weight reduction is enough to account for grinding off one face. Modern circulation coins have extremely low reliefs.
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1995 Cdn Quarter Specs:
Weight: 5.05 grams
Diameter : 23.88 mm or 0.9402"
Thickness: 1.58 mm or 0.0622"
Missing Obv.Specs:
Weight: 4.75 grams
Diameter : 23.8252 mm or 0.9380"
Thickness: 1.3208 mm or 0.0520"
DIFF Specs:
Weight: 0.30 grams (1/17th Diff.)
Diameter : 0.0559mm or 0.0022" (1/427th Diff.)
Thickness: 0.2591mm or 0.0102" (1/6th Diff.)
If 1/6th the thickness is removed, you would expect 1/6th or so of the weight to drop which isn't the case, it's drops by only 1/17th. Doesn't add up. Atomic weights are a constant. The metal of the coin is .60 and you remove 1/6th of the coin either sideways, from the center, or from the top down, the weight will decrease by .10
In this case, the thickness decreased by 1/6th but the weight by only 1/17th. The emptiness of the fields could account for this but I don't believe it's enough metal to make up the 3 to 1 difference. This leads me to believe that it was a possibly a thinner 'foreign ' planchet to begin with and not a Cdn 25 cents planchet.
However, there is still the missing raised rim problem as others has pointed out. There is what appears to be an attempt at a rim because the coin does rise slightly near the rim and there is a very faint band of a rim around the entire obv.
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I think the obverse devices do make up ~1/3 rd of the surface area, and so the emptiness of the fields is enough to only cut the weight by 1/17th rather than 1/6th.
But a general thought, why not get it certified? Send it in to CCCS and if they certify it, you'll be making way more than you could selling it raw (as it's legitimacy sits at the moment). Just my opinion
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It is impossible to have one side appear as a Type 1 planchet and the other side to have a raised, square rim (meaning it was a Type 2 planchet, struck in collar). Although we cannot see it, I suspect the rim still has its edge reeding, which only solidifies it being a post-mint altered coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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I measured from the flat part in the field to the top of the rim on the reverse. Although it may or may not be the same as what was on the Obv., it measures .010 which is pretty much the difference without the Effigy & Rim. Doesn't leave any room for polishing though, at least not to a point where no residual outline of what was once there would show. To Mike Masrshall, good morning to you. I checked your ebay listing on Counterfeit coins and I was shocked to see so many and such a variety...smh |
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I don't want to waste money and time on the obvious by having it graded if it's as everyone here is saying. I might have a hard head but I'm not unreasonable...loll I can concede, probably a lot easier if I had the same experience as most of you, so I guess there's this wishful thinking thing going on...
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Just something else I noticed about this coin is what looks like copper underneath the nickel coating. Apparently the 1995 Quarter was 100% Nickel so no cladding. But foreign countries supposedly used copper with nickel cladding to save money...
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Pillar of the Community
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Trust us and save the shipping to a TPG, this coin was grinded |
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Well, learning a lot, thanks for all the replies.
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Just something else I noticed about this coin is what looks like copper underneath the nickel coating. Apparently the 1995 Quarter was 100% Nickel so no cladding. But foreign countries supposedly used copper with nickel cladding to save money... A simple magnet will answer your own question... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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