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New Jersey Copper From Junk Tray

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 Posted 08/05/2017  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list
It is not a 42, the plow handles are below the N, on 42 the upper handle points to the N. New Jerseys are usually pretty easy to ID but this one is going to be tough.
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 Posted 08/05/2017  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list
Thanks guys - this is amazing!
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 Posted 08/05/2017  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list
I was looking at reverse c as well, but looking further I don't think it is. The stops before and after Unum are farther away on reverse c than this coin. I think the looks of the positioning of the corner of the shield is thrown off by the condition of the coin. Sorry, so far I can only say what I don't think it is!
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 Posted 08/08/2017  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NH collector to your friends list
I believe it is a reverse m as in 55-m. Tall point of shield, Second you higher than N. M slightly skewed to the right
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 Posted 08/08/2017  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NH collector to your friends list
While the reverse sorta matches reverse m, the obverse does not match the obverse 55.
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 Posted 08/08/2017  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list
Every time I think I have it figured out, something just doesn't look right. I guess the corrosion is throwing the details off enough to make it tough.
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 Posted 08/08/2017  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hozer to your friends list
very nice
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 Posted 08/10/2017  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Sweet SCORE!!
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 Posted 08/10/2017  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list
Wouldn't you like to know how it came to be (buried?) in Kent....

In my view, it absolutely should be submitted for certification, even if that isn't cost effective.

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 Posted 08/11/2017  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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In my view, it absolutely should be submitted for certification, even if that isn't cost effective.

Why?
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 Posted 08/11/2017  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list
For the overall authentication aspect to be sure, but I think mostly to get expert verification of the variety. Also, there's the prospect of it's coming back P01 Details which enhances its cool factor even more.



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 Posted 08/11/2017  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list
I see no reason to have it slabbed. Some different pictures may help attribute the variety. You can also try making a rubbing with aluminum foil, I have often done this on lower grade coins, it helps to see some of the details.
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 Posted 08/11/2017  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
I agree with Conder - why get it slabbed?

All it takes is a bit of study, which is fun, and the research has already been started by being asking on CFF!

In fact now there has even been more info added as to the possible variety - which again would be fun to look up and verify.

Now if you are going to sell it, slabbing it will add artificial value onto it. I don't know if it would cover the slabbing cost though. But until that time, save your money and buy another coin - hopefully as good of a pickup as this one
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 Posted 08/11/2017  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Although this piece is a significant part of early American numismatic history, it is in such poor condition as to not make it worthwhile to have it authenticated.
A better approach would be to take it to another third party, (such as us) for an opinion, or to a respected coin dealer. Certainly cheaper than having it slabbed.

Even it it were slabbed, the opinion of the slabbing third party is, after all, only another opinion.

Another reality that has to be faced, is that genuine or not, is that huge amount of deterioration that this coin has, can cover up all sorts of evidence that would otherwise prove it to be genuine or otherwise.
That makes it almost impossible for anyone to provide a completely unchallengeable opinion, including a slabbing third party.

By the way, I would have also snapped it up out of a dealer's junk bin at the price you paid for it! Well done!
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