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I'm at 62 on these, with the 82 slightly better, but not 63 better. Your '82 has a large die clash, most noticeable right of the eagle's right wing. There are other points this clash can be seen both in both sides, such as a line coming out of Liberty's neck. Use the die crack on the top of reverse to help you narrow down the VAM. |
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 with everyone saying 63. the 1882 is a weak strike. |
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Thank you all for the comments. I'm not quite sure on VAM indication for the 1882-CC, as I'm new to this. But it looks like potentially VAM-3D. |
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But it looks like potentially VAM-3D. I agree..  Any thoughts on the '92? (I don't want to be a spoiler)  Edited by dave700x
04/26/2018 10:57 am
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Great - but I suspect that was an easy one!
For the '92, I took a look but honestly I'm really not sure about that one.
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The obverse die is a far date placement and the die crack from the 3rd to 4th left star matches both listings so it apparently boils down to the reverse die. I'm torn between VAM-8 and VAM-9.
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I'm going to play the devils advocate here and ask the question why the 92-cc, if indeed an MS-63 and problem free coin, has not been graded by PCGS or NGC. We are talking about a $2k plus coin. 99% of the time, there is a reason for that, and it's not usually in the buyers favour.
Not a big fan of the carbon spots either.
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Thanks, Dave! I'll take a closer look and see if I can distinguish.
Hadley, I understand your question - for what it's worth, these are from a collection that hasn't been maintained, as far as I know, for about two generations. So I am simply going through, organizing, setting aside these types of coins, and definitely learning quite a bit. There could be problems with it, but I will submit to a grading agency to find out.
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I see no problems with these coins. The 1882-CC could make 64; at least, I've seen plenty of slabbed 64s that look no better. The '92-CC is limited by chatter and the toning spots diminish eye appeal a little. Should still pull MS-62 and I'd give PCGS a shot if it were my coin.
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Perhaps you should consider sending the 92-CC to NGC for conservation. Others in the forum will have a better idea if the carbon spots can be removed (professional) without damaging the coin. That is, without causing the coin to receive a "Details" grade.
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