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1818 Cent Rotated Reverse Question

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 Posted 08/19/2018  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poppaman3 to your friends list
@KK... Sorry, but I could not get both pics oriented properly (technical limitations...). The reverse image is actually 90 deg. rotated (note the black tape at top of obverse pic and same black tape at left edge of reverse pic. I will need to take new pics, as I still cannot get the reverse orientation to work/display properly...
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 Posted 08/19/2018  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
Can you prop the coin in front of a mirror and get a picture of both sides (with reasonable focus and decent lighting)?
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 Posted 08/19/2018  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list

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Can you prop the coin in front of a mirror and get a picture of both sides (with reasonable focus and decent lighting)?


Try that. It will work. I would take Alpha2814's advice.
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 Posted 08/20/2018  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poppaman3 to your friends list
All... First, thanks for all your efforts and suggestions; I really do appreciate them.

My efforts to obtain a useful image using a mirror have been unsuccessful.

I have taken new photos with proper orientation - note position of staple in these two pics - if this helps, please let me know your thoughts

Thanks again,

PaulR.
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That looks pretty rotated! It's a good one too! It looks like it rotated 93 degrees counterclockwise. Once the die rotates to 90 degrees or more, it's considered collectable by coin collectors.
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Noted and thanks for the affirmation. Anyone have any thoughts as to value? As stated before, my estimation is that it is about a 20 - 25 grade coin and valued (without rotation) at about USD 75.00 - USD 100.00. What premium would this rotation put on it?

Thanks for all your assistance.....
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You're very welcome and no problem! To be honest, I'm not sure on the value, but other members might know though. :)
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Don'thave time now, will determine variety later, I suspect N-3 because it is known with 70 and 80 degree rotations.
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Thank you... I await your further information, at your convenience, of course...

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I'm confused I can't get it to match anything.
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Gary - is there anything you need from me? Now that rotation has been established, I can supply images w/o the holder (eliminating glare) if that helps...
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Once the die rotates to 90 degrees or more, it's considered collectable by coin collectors.

Not necessarily so. At coin shows many times I've heard people say they will not buy a coin when the reverse is rotated. Mercury dimes are famous for that and many dealers have problems selling ones with rotated reverses.
Just out of curiosity I wonder if it's the reverse that is rotated or the Obverse.
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I can supply images w/o the holder (eliminating glare) if that helps.

Oriented properly and without the holder would be helpful.
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 Posted 08/24/2018  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list
With current images, I'll estimate reverse shows its rotated 81° CCW.

Unless we can find someone who was present at the time operating the coining press or left behind documentation, the knowing of which die had movement will remain a mystery. Could've been one die or the other. Also could've been both. Thanks, Doug.
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