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Valued Member
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Old brown paper rolls, had a logo, didn't pay attention, had an hour to look through a few thousand rolled coins quickly before they went to the melting pot. All coins in a roll were the same date, rolls were from 1962,3,4. Here's the corresponding reverse image.  Edited by Loruca
01/19/2019 5:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The complete absence of any marks from other coins indicates it could be a PL, removed from a chelo set and rolled. Once removed from these chelo plastics or PL set its hard to know the difference.
PL66/67 for me....
Although I am far from a professional grader, I am learning here just like you and many others.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Beautiful example whatever it is! 67 would not surprise me.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would have shot the people that melted them within that hour you were there. I wish I had that chance....
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Looks PL to me and not an MS.
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Valued Member
Canada
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I own a number of PL sets, and not to disagree with members of the forum who have tons of experience in this sector (That's why I'm posting!) PL coins have polished fields and satin reliefs (bust finish). This coin does not have that differentiation, both the fields and bust have a smooth finish. Here's an image of the coin in a 2*2. (horrible image to grade from, thanks to the plastic and dust etc... but good image to see the absence of contrast in finishes.) I can't find a PL set without some trace of cameo.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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TPG's would grade that as a PL, I could see a 66 out of this as in original photo's it looks like it has a few hairlines. One by the R in Regina, one below the bust of the queen and one under the II. If that is dust then this could see a 67 I think.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Is it possible that the mint mixed a few PL coins in rolls back then. I had a similar experience with a machine rolled roll of 1955 nickels I picked one out to send for grading that I thought was a 1955 MS-65 coin but come back PL 65 instead of what I had thought.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Update! My "source" also got 15 rolls of halves, ALL uncirculated 1965. I picked out the nicest possible pieces out of them, they all seem to have been struck with the same dies. (see the "dot" on the queen's cheek). I feel stupid for not also buying one with less "cameo" but the die polishing mark was on most of them. This particular example needs an acetone bath, badly, but still looks like a solid 65 with a chance at 66 afterwards. Here's where it gets interesting though: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://www.colonialacres.com/v/vspfiles/photos/50-0827-2T.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.colonialacres.com/product-p/50-0827.htm&docid=CfPXrSfGIxLbiM&tbnid=TU78uyGER1rWKM:&vet=10ahUKEwiY2M71mK_gAhUJ8IMKHUQuDQIQMwhCKAQwBA..i&w=400&h=400&itg=1&client=safari&bih=837&biw=1440&q=50%20cents%201965%20heavy%20cameo&ved=0ahUKEwiY2M71mK_gAhUJ8IMKHUQuDQIQMwhCKAQwBA&iact=mrc&uact=8 Please excuse the huge link, but it leads to a coin for sale with the same exact die polishing cheek mark graded PL-66. So my question is, 15 rolls? How is it possible that there were 15 rolls worth broken out of PL sets? (could a die have been reused to strike coins for circulation?) I am very very lost. Anyone care to illuminate me? Thanks!    |
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Pillar of the Community
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They look PL from the pics, what is going on with queens chins can you get a closer shot?
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How is it possible that there were 15 rolls worth broken out of PL sets? Coin collectors sometimes hoard the strangest things... I once encountered a collection where the owner had cut apart about 200 PL sets from each year: 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1967, and had the coins all neatly organized in those square coin tubes... Shrug... it happens...  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Valued Member
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Thanks SPP, I guess you have the experience to have seen this sort of accumulation before! As for the queen's chin, it's just a result of die polishing, (I find it quite attractive) the dies were polished to the point that the bottom of the chin (right under the lip) received the same finish as the fields.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I find that US TPG's grade most of our Canadian coins (modern) as PL if they are a nice example because our coins are issued very shiny right across the whole coin. There is next to no velvety luster on our coins like there is with US coins. Anyone else agree?  |
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