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Valued Member
United States
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I think you guys are missing the point. He needs a cheap, non-Whitman folder to put his Roosevelt dime collection in. I'm going to go ahead and suggest a Harris folder for your collecting needs. It's the same tri-fold folder as the Whitman one, but it's not made of terrible material. Go with that one, I use them for all of my pulled-from-circulation coins.
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Valued Member
 United States
202 Posts |
Well, I have some Wittmans laying around. I think that I'm going to have my nicer sets of Roosevelts in a book that offers better protection. I will probably use the Wittman folders for just pocket change that I find just to see if I can fill a complete set from change. Just out of curiousity.
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Valued Member
United States
146 Posts |
i use the Whitman folder with the plastic slides what do you guys think about that?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
764 Posts |
for a cheap circulated set, theres nothing wrong with using a whitman folder. for the price of an album, you can replace the folder about 10 times. unfortunately you cant see both sides
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Moderator
 United States
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I started with the Whitman folders, but after about few years of collecting, I started moving everything to Dansco albums. I keep everything in Dansco, even for the modern circulated coins, because I assign a lot of value to the sentiment of having collected these "cheap moderns" for the last 30 years. If you want something better than the folders, but cheaper than Dansco, then you cannot beat the 2x2 and vinyl page route. They are rather inexpensive, especially in bulk, and you can get any cheap 3-ring binder to put the pages in. This should only cost a few dollars more than any folders would. The ability to "customize" your albums is a plus. I do have some 2x2 albums myself, but they are the smaller 12 pocket pages that fit into the Dansco binders. 
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Moderator
 United States
189215 Posts |
Quote: i use the Whitman folder with the plastic slides what do you guys think about that? These are the Whitman Classic Albums, not the folders. IMHO, they are probably as good as the Dansco. I have heard people say they do not hold up as well as the Dansco, but I cannot speak from personal experience since I have only ever used the Dansco.
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Valued Member
United States
346 Posts |
Yeah, the Whitman Classic Albums most certainly do NOT hold up as well as the Dansco. The Whitman ones deteriorate more rapidly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
666 Posts |
When it comes to toning I agree that the Whitman folders do some nasty things.
I'll also agree that the problem with folders is that they only let you see one side of the coin.
I don't think they've been around long enough yet, BUT, I suspect that the Harris folders won't have the same effect as the Whitman ones. Harris Folders also have a reverse spot.
If you want natural toning that looks good, I've always been impressed with collections that I've seen come out of the old "Library of Coins" albums. The only problem I've seen with them is that the sleeves will nearly cement themselves to the coins in ~10 years.
I've also seen some crazy (but good) toning come from Whitman albums. This is kind of a crap shoot though as for every nicely toned coin that comes out there are 4 or 5 bad ones.
You might try looking at a dealer for one of these used albums. The dealer I go to sells used albums other than Dansco for $5. Used Dansco albums usually run a little more but are generally less than $10.
Long story short - Whitman Folders Bad / Other Folders Better / Albums Good
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Valued Member
United States
271 Posts |
Yeah, like springcypress said, try finding some used albums from your local coin shop(s) and/or ebay...I've picked up used Dansco's from my local coin shop for anywhere between $5-$12, depending on condition.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
581 Posts |
Wow! We have some Whitman Folder haters out there!
Personal experience. I collected as a child. I had whitman folders. I had 2 penny sets, a nickel set and a dime set (quarters were too much money back then!). This was in the late '60's, early '70s.
As most people, I left that childhood pursuit and came back to them over 30 years later.
Not one single toned coin. Plenty of bright red pennies still there. Don't know what you guys are talking about. Of course, these were not stored in a garage, but only in the back of a closet all those years.
Remember, folders don't tone coins, collectors do!
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Valued Member
United States
164 Posts |
For circulated sets, a folder, Whitman or otherwise, is just fine. For uncirculated, there are very few good solutions which are economical. I don't care how good an album is supposed to be, they are not air tight and a coin will eventually tone in the album.
I have read several threads here and elsewhere about how good Dansco is. Unless it is airtight, I don't see how it is any better than any of the other brands of album available. It may be more durable, but it can't prevent toning.
I suppose the best solution for an uncirculated coin is to put it into an air tight holder in an inert atmosphere. If you have a lot of such coins, that could get expensive fast.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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NONE of the "folders" or "albums" are airtight.....so it then boils down to "storage environment". Whitmans folders will be just as good as anything else unless you store them in a bad spot....high humidity.....temperature fluctuations.....other "coin toxic" air conditions can and will eventually "affect" your coins if left exposed to these anti-hospitable coin conditions. The best most expensive albums with protective sleeve sliders etc. etc......will NOT protect/prevent "bad environment" conditions from ruining coins..... So, just wrap these Whitman folders in ziplock bags.....or some use aluminum foil....or pvc free containers....or safety deposit boxes at the bank.....or safes with humidity devices......whatever.......but some sort of "protection" beyond just the "folder" would be advised......even though the coins are reletively inexpensive "pocket change".......if they get ruined...then you've wasted a lot of time. Whoever inherits this collection/work of yours, will not like to see "spotted/corroded" coins in 40 years or or even next month......doesn't matter......protect them babies !!... 
Edited by eaglefoot 08/11/2008 08:53 am
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Valued Member
United States
74 Posts |
I have kept my coins in a Harris folder for about 6 years now (that's when I started coin collecting). I haven't noticed any toning at all. I just keep the folders in a closet where I keep all my books.
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Moderator
 United States
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I agree that environment is a huge factor. If the albums perform better, I would say it has to do with their limiting (not preventing) air movement (since both sides of the coin are "protected" with the plastic slides). One cannot forget about materials; a lot can be said about the adhesives used in folders.
That said, I still have my old Whitman folders tucked away. I put a bunch of coins in them not long after I moved my good ones to Dansco albums. I got them out this weekend to take a look at them. They have fared much better than one might expect. I did not look at the backs though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's a good example..... It's like the waterproof tent theory..... there's no such thing !! You can have water resistant tents, but not waterproof tents..... Same example will apply with coin album/folders......they may restrict air flow, but it's certainly not 100% nor are they "airtight". And the corrosive gases that may be present WILL permeate most of these materials that these albums and folders are constucted with. So, it's still where and how you store your coins, as well as what folder/album they're displayed in....IMHO.
Edited by eaglefoot 08/11/2008 11:41 am
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