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Pillar of the Community
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Really? I'm valueing the break up value at anywhere between $200-$450. Depending on how well it is marketed.
Edited by alganbagerap 03/25/2019 9:30 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Mighty retraction here. I had not noticed that the coins were soldered together in groups of two. Problematic. Probably OK to get a jeweler to split them up and clean the edges. The people who buy these items are not coin collectors, nor do they have our inhibitions. These are jewelry pieces and will still sell well as such. You just need to find a decent artisan to split them up.
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Pillar of the Community
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I repeat myself ... IMHO, these dimes are not worth the time and effort to split up. The intact, silver, vintage bracelet is worth more as a single entity. The only way that this would be worth separating is if there's a highly valued dime in the group. Odds are, there's not. I just looked on ebay, and many sellers are asking crazy prices for love tokens. At coin shows, bracelets with dimes like this sell in the $50-$75 range. Here, let's see what this comparable bracelet realizes on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-18...cectupt=true
Edited by ExoGuy 03/26/2019 03:20 am
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I see what you mean about the soldier. I do have a couple of acquaintances that are jewellers. I can ask their thoughts and price on it. 2 of the coins have solder on the faces of the coins . Which seem to be not worth it, but the others may clean up well. It may be worth having it separated cleaned up and soldered in a cleaner way not so offensive to coin collector and jewelry collectors alike. Thank you both. I am very green to all this so I am grateful. I'm not sure if it's permissible, but exoguy you seem to be knowledgable in vintage jewelry as well. If you are interested in helping a newbe email me please.I have a few pieces I would love your thoughts on. Any advise is valued. If this was a no-no to ask of you I apologize in advance, no disrespect to anyone or the forum. Thank you, PamV
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@ PamV .... I'm not particularly knowledgeable about jewelry. Like you, I've rubbed elbows with a few friends who are, and I've a fair knowledge of antiques in general. Over the years, I've bought a good many antiques and assisted auctioneers with estate appraisals. It was a great learning experience. I've encountered a few dozen bracelets or coin pendants, chains like yours. When I speak to value, I do so on a wholesale level. Marketed as antiques, these bracelets, and old coins in general, can fetch multiples of their base value.
Personally, I'd not bother with the solder issue or otherwise spend money on upgrading the condition. It's just not worth the investment, unless YOU want to wear it as jewelry. If the ultimate goal is to sell it and the single dime, you might try putting them in a well-attended antique auction. Given but a $3 investment, there's no downside. It could be a good learning experience for you. Solicit the opinions of your acquaintances on the other vintage jewelry, to gauge the value. Keep in mind that there are large, retail mark-ups on jewelry. Many years ago, back when I would periodically buy coin collections, I tended to accumulate lots of low end material that didn't suit my collection. There was even some coin jewelry and love tokens that would pile up. At one point, when I had a box of that that stuff, I decided to put it all in an antique auction. By my estimate, the coins and such had a wholesale value of about $700. There were many silver coins but no gold. There were around three hundred folks at the auction, some of whom were antique dealers looking for stock. Thus, I figured I'd at least recoup my expense on the stuff. After the auctioneer took his commission, I got back $2,800. The lesson from my perspective was that perceived value can far exceed real or base value. Antique coin and other vintage jewelry will likely fetch a higher than average return in such a venue.
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Pillar of the Community
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Glad to see you're pleased. IMHO, that ebay price realized on the bracelet is fairly indicative of its market value. On other days, one might sell for $60 or even $100 to someone who likes vintage jewelry. There are lots of treasures out there, awaiting discovery. This $3 find may lead to many more, perhaps! A longtime, coin dealer buddy of mine, getting up there in years, has been liquidating his stock and stuff he's accumulated. I received a package from him on Monday, containing a hundred or so tokens that he wants me to liquidate. Most of the "stuff" was low end, worth $5 or less. There were a some $10-$20 or so tokens. One a few Civil War tokens turned out to be a valuable piece. Indeed, I owned one a few years ago that realized $2,000 at auction. His token is in better condition than was mine! I told my buddy that I'd put it in a top auction for him. He was overjoyed! One man's trash can indeed be another's treasure.
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Valued Member
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Preach, I usually get most my collection from being someone's trash. Literally, when I lived in south florida. I have found some nice, interesting, and on occasion valuable items that were put out for the city to haul to the junk yard. Jewelry, tchotchke's, and collectable statues. Some people would clean out loved ones homes and not realize what they've thrown away. I miss living down there and doing those things. When I do get to go down south and visit family I still ride around looking for that dusty forgotten treasure.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You're right, PamV. Florida's a great place for pickers on the hunt. The huge Webster flea market was a favorite of mine. I made a few, unbelievable finds there, coin and token-wise. Knowledge is key. There's a good deal of that, here on the CCF.
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Valued Member
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I concur, and I am in awe  also so grateful. More than you all could ever know. I am blessed that these wonderful folks here have the patients they do to teach me. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As one who is currently collecting the Seated Liberty dime series, I must attest to all of the above. The $200-$450 range quoted in a previous post is a fair price range for appraisal. There is a separate market for these and I have seen them selling on ebay, with bids, for $30 plus each. Some, in fact, are over one-hundred. Dealers and coin shows, a bit less. The pricing would be dependent on the year, condition and/or the intricacy of the design elements. Personally, I think they are beautiful in their own right. I have three former jewelry pieces in my collection at the moment. None being love tokens though, soldered on the reeded edge which once bound them together, and now in black ring Air-tite holders you can not tell. Just an option to consider, should you chose to separate them, which would maximize the resale. Again, if that be your intent at some point. You did extremely well on the purchase price.
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Pillar of the Community
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My estimate of worth was based on the fact that all of the OP's coins bear simple initials. While the "coins" are artfully engraved, all have been doubly looped to form the bracelet. Adding to that damage, the coins were planed-down, obliterating reverse mintmarks, if any were ever there. Many of the coins are scratched, too. The artwork adds value to it; this, above what commonly found initials typically fetch.   Subject matter, artistic design and condition of the host coin are what drives the value of these "love tokens." From a coin standpoint, the OP's bracelet is worth silver melt value. IMHO, it's market value is increased by virtue of it being vintage jewelry, late 1800's era. Jewelry is often sold at up to a 500% mark-up. There's inevitably always someone who will pay more; and, crazy prices, too. I used to routinely attend antique auctions. I've seen well circulated $1 "silver certificates" sell for $9 apiece. These commonly wholesale from $1.25 - $1.50, each. I've seen circulated 1943 steel cents sell for over $9 apiece. People who have limited knowledge and experience will inevitably pay more. Virtually every collector has made a poor purchase, at sometime or another. Hopefully, we don't pay too high a price for our lessons.
Edited by ExoGuy 04/23/2019 10:54 pm
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Valued Member
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Thank you both. I am one with limited knowledge. I'm not going to say I havent made poor choices in the past ,but I'm learning . Also that's why Iask y'all about my items. Everyone has been very helpful and has guided me in the right direction. I have improved on my visual skill and have gained alot of knowledge from this community. I am a long way from being confident so you wont be rid of me any time soon. Lol Sincerely, I thank you for your help and patience.
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Pillar of the Community
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@PamV .... Happy to see you're enjoying the CCF. It's a great place to learn and see contrasting observations. Take it from this old codger, you're never too old to learn a lesson, now and then. If you want to advance your knowledge about coins, coin jewelry, attend an area coin show and a local club. Both venues are often novice friendly. You can comparison shop, and you'll find that most folks therein love to share their knowledge.
Happy hunting!
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