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Possible 1983 LMC DDR 002?

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 Posted 06/27/2019  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evan7 to your friends list
According to what I've learned so far, I'd say it's Machine Doubling because devices are reduced in size?
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 Posted 06/27/2019  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evan7 to your friends list
Actually it appears that lower E has a split. What's y'all opinion about it?
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 Posted 06/27/2019  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list

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 Posted 06/27/2019  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list
The "UNU" does not look quite right. Could you capture the entire EPU as in coops photos?
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 Posted 06/27/2019  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list
1983 DDR FS-802. Nice find.
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 Posted 06/27/2019  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
I have added it this time, but you should include the date, mintmark, and the denomination in your titles.

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 Posted 06/27/2019  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Also on UNITED, show an image like this to see if the die scratches are below that area:
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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list
I really appreciate all the assistance! I've done a lot of driving today and if nothing else it's help keep me awake!
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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
If your tired, we can continue tomorrow. But note the die scratches on the coin I posted with UNITED. See if the die scratches are a match or not?
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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list
Apologies Coop. I don't have the exact angle you're looking for but should be able to get it later tonight or tomorrow. You may be able to tell from what I've posted though.
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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The images I have a not my coin. So tomorrow you can post some images of that area. Just post them in this thread. That way we can find it again.
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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list
At first glance it does not appear so. Is this pretty significant scratch that runs from the left side of the monument on your example , over to the left side of the letter u in United. Either the angle that I shot does not show it clearly or at all or it's not there and at least we know it's not that die stage.
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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list
Thanks again I'll definitely repost with a clear shot and better angle. Now that I look a little more closely at CPU, I think that any doubling that exist there could possibly be Die Deterioration Doubling. What I don't understand is that the rest of the devices that I'm looking at do not exhibit the same degree of deterioration. I guess it makes sense if deteriorate starts from the middle and works its way out.

That said... the presence of Die Deterioration and or Die Deterioration Doubling does not preclude the possibility of a doubled die right?
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 Posted 06/29/2019  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list
This is kind of strange and not quite what I was expecting... It looks like the die gouges (small dots) actually line up pretty well with what I'm seeing in the image below. The scratches are somewhat different although some of them do seem to line up like the one between the N and the I. At the base of the letters I think I can faintly see some older lighter underline scratches to the heavier deeper overlying that is on the coin below, possibly indicating a later die stage for the coin below, with regard to my coin... If the one above is in fact the 002?
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06/29/2019 11:27 am
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