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1964 Kennedy Half With 3 X Shaped Die Crack Marks On It

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 Posted 11/05/2019  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list
I know it seems exciting but the marks would have to be in the exact same positions to be die related and as you can see in this composite of the two coins they are not. This was done to the coins after they were struck.
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 Posted 11/05/2019  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Toots to your friends list
I digress. You're right. I will have this looked at by a professional for an opinion. Or even, after I send it in to be certified, then I will know, and post updates to everyone who has commented on these threads. Thanks.
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 Posted 11/05/2019  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Toots to your friends list
However, I don't agree with coop,or stoneman227, that these are deliberate. In fact the side by side backs up my theory that the marks are in the same place. Not to forget, there are no cuts. Only, I say, only raised material! Jealousy is an ugly thing fellas. Good day.

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 Posted 11/05/2019  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Sorry but no, they are not in the same place. In fact its obvious that the X's are not even physically the same.
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 Posted 11/05/2019  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Toots to your friends list
You need to imagine the angle at wihich the pics were taken, as well as the coin angle to know if the Xs are the same or not. But you are right in correcting me in the fact that they are not exactly in the same spot, as far as we can tell at this point based on the photos. Which brings me back to the angles issue. However, it's like I said, I will have my coin looked at by a professional. Because nobody seems to have a good explaination why the marks, all close in proximity, made of all raised material, being very small in size, found thus far on two 1964 Kennedy half dollars are made or why they exist. No one.
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 Posted 11/05/2019  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Toots to your friends list
Also Bobby, you are comparing two different halves of the reverse side of the coin...
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 Posted 11/05/2019  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
@toots, I'm very much looking forward to you posting to this thread the results of your submission to a third party grading company or other professional.
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 Posted 11/05/2019  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list

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Also Bobby, you are comparing two different halves of the reverse side of the coin...

How about stoneman227's image, which shows the same side? On the left, one arm of the "X" is touching the star, but on the right, it is not? The other arm is also farther away from the closest star.

Looks to me like someone marked their coins in a similar way and we happened to find two of them.
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 Posted 11/05/2019  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
You can argue all you want. They are not the same X and not in the same place. All you have to do is look at them. The long legs on one are roughly them same length, the short legs on the other are roughly the same length and it has nothing to do with the angle of the image. It's obvious.
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 Posted 11/05/2019  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Toots, no one here is jealous. Everyone has given you their unbiased opinion on what they are seeing and trying to explain it based on the extensive experience they have.

The two coins, yours and the second one with the "X", are not exactly the same so they could not have been produced from the same die.
I still hope you will post a full obverse and reverse. Thanks.
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 Posted 11/05/2019  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Toots to your friends list
I know nobody here is jealous, I just was trying to stir it up a little. I get that way sometimes. My apologies. I will argue that looking at the "legs" length and trying to see if it touches the star or not from two photos taken at different angles is silly. I will try and get better photos, perhaps even try and imitate the angles at which The nice lady had taken hers at. I the mean time I still gotta ask the reasoning behind the raised marks, and their location on two, possibly more coins, in circulation? How did they get into those spots, incredibly in close proximity, and why? If not a die error, or an accident in general, who would take the time to make these raised silver Xs in these spots on these two, or more 1964 Kennedy half dollar Coins?
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 Posted 11/05/2019  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
People had added metal onto a coin to make something that is not a mint error:
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 Posted 11/05/2019  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
This proof having good pictures is a requirement.

The chance of these being actually error coins is real slim, and collectors didn't detect it for over 50 years.
It isn't like RPM or other minor errors that is more difficult to spot.
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 Posted 11/06/2019  04:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list

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I will have this looked at by a professional for an opinion. Or even, after I send it in to be certified, then I will know, and post updates to everyone who has commented on these threads. Thanks.
Even if we are correct? I suggest sending to anacs because they charge the least. I will be
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 Posted 11/06/2019  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
I'm locking this topic until it comes back from the TPG, drop a note through the contact form when you hear back and I'll unlock it for the results.
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