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My Experiences With An Appearance Review Submission To NGC

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 Posted 03/30/2021  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
As long as you paid much less than AU-53 money for the original coin...
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 Posted 03/30/2021  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
I purchased the Half Cent for $20 less than AU 53, with the NGC review and shipping costs I'm $20 more than AU 53.

If I shipped it back and buying another one plus shipping I would have been with a few dollars of what I ended up paying.

This is more about the experience then the cost. What this showed me is that NGC took care of me, so even though I disagree about the initial grade NGC made it right.
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 Posted 03/30/2021  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
What they did was probably ....
Cracked it out , used a little COIN CARE
or a similar product , reslabbed and sent
it back
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What they did was probably ....
Cracked it out , used a little COIN CARE
or a similar product , reslabbed and sent
it back


Correct! But if I did it, it would be called "cleaning" but since NGC did it it's "conserved"
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 Posted 03/31/2021  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
Maybe they gave it a scrub with a toothbrush?

A learning experience yes, and I must say that this was quite educational for me.

NGC makes a mistake, admits it, and charges you $36 to make it right.

If car makers did this we would be foaming at the mouth. Why on earth do we collectors tolerate such behaviour?
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 Posted 03/31/2021  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
No , if you did it it would be Conserving NOT
Cleaning . The only difference NCS and others get paid too well
for what you can do for very little .
Most of us who have been around for a long time
get the SAME results as the Conservation Services .
It comes down to knowing what you are doing and
what can be saved .
They make big money doing this for one simple
reason , MARKETING . Coin restoration is a bit
of an art with no guarantees of success . But it is
certainly not rocket science either!
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It comes down to knowing what you are doing and what can be saved
I agree.

Not everyone can or will learn the correct procedures, therefore these paid services will almost always find success.
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 Posted 03/31/2021  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AES to your friends list
Looks good.

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 Posted 03/31/2021  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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I got no explanation on what was done.

Well their processes are "proprietary". So they aren't going to tell you what they did to it.
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 Posted 04/01/2021  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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Well their processes are "proprietary". So they aren't going to tell you what they did to it.


Well I was expecting something like this:

"Sir/Madam, per your appearance review request, we reviewed your 1/2 cent. Upon review we agree that the coin merits conservation. We have conserved it and upon grading confirm that the coin is still AU 53"

Because basically that's what they did, but they didn't notify me.

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Not everyone can or will learn the correct procedures, therefore these paid services will almost always find success.

I agree with the "will," but think it is few people who fit into the category of "Not everyone can... ."
But...I was a teacher so that attitude is in my DNA

They did a nice job here.

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Well I was expecting something like this:



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I agree with the "will," but think it is few people who fit into the category of "Not everyone can... ."
I stand by what I said. Few > Zero, therefore not everyone.

Kidding aside, I do appreciate your lifelong effort to teach.
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Honestly for a $20 coin, I would be fine "dipping" it myself, but for a $100+ coin, I would rather not take the chance. One can turn a $100 coin into bullion if not careful. The "details" flag can kill the value of a coin.

IN THIS CASE

If I took out the coin dipped it and resubmitted, the cost would have been more than $36 and there are no guarantees I would have gotten the same grade.
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Honestly for a $20 coin, I would be fine "dipping" it myself, but for a $100+ coin, I would rather not take the chance. One can turn a $100 coin into bullion if not careful. The "details" flag can kill the value of a coin.
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 Posted 04/02/2021  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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"Sir/Madam, per your appearance review request, we reviewed your 1/2 cent. Upon review we agree that the coin merits conservation. We have conserved it and upon grading confirm that the coin is still AU 53"

Because basically that's what they did, but they didn't notify me.

Guess they assumed you were smart enough to figure it out once you got the coin back.
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