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1918 Xed Out Penny.

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I'd hope they would at least try considering the mint confirmed that working dies from 1909 were used because of the war effort so they tried removing the V. D. B. from the reverse. I've seen coins that have been damaged with a knife and they look nothing like these, it looks like the actual working dies were marked.
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the coins been sent to PCGS


learn through experience.
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If the dies were pulled out, and then "cancelled", why did they put them back in to produce your coin? I would assume a cancelled die would then immediately be scrapped, not put back in the press to make more coins.
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In that time they keep the dies and destroyed later. In that time they cancel the dies by destroyed the channels and the holes to attach the dies to the machine. I have no idea why this topic was reopen? Obviously it is not a legal mint coin.
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the coins been sent to PCGS

I just realized this thread is almost a year old. You've had a year to submit your coin to PCGS Why have you waited? Whats the point of re-posting just to argue. Everyone here has told you what it is. Just a damaged coin
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Only the master die engraver can remove the working dies so I'm guessing a mint employee marked the working dies to be removed and the engraver missed it, there was a lot of human error during the screw press technique.
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Why does it matter how long it took me to send it to PCGS? I didn't repost to argue, but not every coin is PMD, take a knife to a coin and upload the photo so you'll be able to see the difference and of all the coins I've seen, I've never seen one with these markings or why a 1918?
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Only the master die engraver can remove the working dies so I'm guessing a mint employee marked the working dies to be removed and the engraver missed it, there was a lot of human error during the screw press technique.


Huh?
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@SouthernChange86: The master engraver never touch the dies. The last one who do all the job complete (I give the last three) was 1. Gobrecht in 1836; 2.Zorbe 1921 and 3. Chapman 1921 and all those was deal with Dollard.


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screw press technique.


On mint in US and Canada never was die screw press. In early 1800 London use screws to hold the dies for a very small amount of time. What you talk about it is about small workshops who press different things on very tinny material with almost no resistance.

You want to send to TPG? your choice. Me I told you have cooper wire attach to the coin and this it is PMD.

Good luck !

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This has been fun. Any bets OP doesn't update when he gets it back from PCGS?
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PMD, I agree this looks like wire soldered to the coin.
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