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 Posted 12/27/2025  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
To CCF! Dearborn summed it up well. I agree.
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 Posted 12/27/2025  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharks to your friends list
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 Posted 12/27/2025  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spaceman spiff to your friends list
Thanks to all, much appreciated,

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 Posted 12/27/2025  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rubduck to your friends list
I have two quarters identical to what you have.. Then, you must be super talented to take that quarter and keep it in place and grind the diameter.Evenly around both sides of that without leaving a scratch or a pressure mark in the middle where you love it.So it didn't slide. using to hold this thing dead center and have the diameter of this.So called grinds they are dead center evenly.Grounded in the diameter of the coin, but no ratchets are showincoin without showing scratches.How to use tools?But there is no grinding marks on that at all. I've been using grinders for forty six years in my trade.And ain't no wait in the hell. That was done by a grinder.You can't tell me that somebody had that dead center and took a grinder and made it completely even around the perimeter of that coin on both sides. That I believe was a defective planchet. Who ever said that this was done by a grinder. Please would you post a live video of you making these grinds on this coin.Exactly what I see there. I will send you a gift card for p$100.00 to prove me wrong., but these are your opinion and we greatly appreciate everything that you're telling us,but not everything is always PMD... Don't take this the wrong way.This is my opinion too
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 Posted 12/27/2025  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list

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I've been using grinders for forty six years in my trade.
OK well maybe not a grinder....here's what I've seen...and I've been around the body and paint/ auto restoration bizz for @ 30++ years.... plating/chrome shops use buffer wheels with different stages/grit of rouge to polish the copper/nickel and chrome finishes and those workers normally use a quarter to clean those wheels...also in the p and b industry the guys who still polish cars with wool pads use the same technique.

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 Posted 12/28/2025  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

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I have two quarters identical to what you have.. Then, you must be super talented to take that quarter and keep it in place and grind the diameter.Evenly around both sides of that without leaving a scratch or a pressure mark in the middle where you love it.So it didn't slide. using to hold this thing dead center and have the diameter of this.So called grinds they are dead center evenly. Grounded in the diameter of the coin, but no ratchets are showincoin without showing scratches.How to use tools?But there is no grinding marks on that at all. I've been using grinders for forty six years in my trade.And ain't no wait in the hell. That was done by a grinder.You can't tell me that somebody had that dead center and took a grinder and made it completely even around the perimeter of that coin on both sides. That I believe was a defective planchet. Who ever said that this was done by a grinder. Please would you post a live video of you making these grinds on this coin.Exactly what I see there. I will send you a gift card for p$100.00 to prove me wrong., but these are your opinion and we greatly appreciate everything that you're telling us,but not everything is always PMD... Don't take this the wrong way.This is my opinion too


Rubduck, it's time you quit just arguing and learn the minting process so you can explain to us how these happen.

The burden of proof is not on the side of damage. The burden of proof is always on the side of mint error. Always has been to serious/seasoned collectors. So you should be able to explain how this happened during the minting process if it's an error.

You're doing this totally backwards. You shouldn't look at a coin and say "How did this happen?" You should look at a coin and say "Can this happen during the minting process?" Knowledge of the minting process will allow you to do that.

There a a billion ways a coin can be damaged.
There is a finite number of ways for errors to happen.


Your first test is to go to error-ref.com and find the "planchet error" that you think this is. Also, since we see these all the time (at least monthly) it should be simple to find one in PCGS or NGC error slab. Find one.

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 Posted 12/28/2025  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

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I have two quarters identical to what you have..


1. Post one here so we can agree it's identical.
2. Once we agree, send it to PCGS.
3. When you get it back, post it here.
4. If it's in an error slab, post the invoice also. I will immediately Paypal the full amount to you.

I'm not going anywhere I own this joint, Time to put your money where your mouth is. Now you have nothing to lose, unless of course you're wrong. I'll be here waiting patiently.
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 Posted 12/28/2025  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Eager to see where this goes.
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 Posted 12/28/2025  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uruman to your friends list
I'm still waiting .
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 Posted 12/28/2025  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Seeker_101 to your friends list

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I've been using grinders for forty six years in my trade. And ain't no wait in the hell. That was done by a grinder.You can't tell me that somebody had that dead center and took a grinder and made it completely even around the perimeter of that coin on both sides.


I was a machinist for 7 years and routinely used a bench top grinder to put a bevel on parts. It's not all that hard to do, but make sure you have water close by to keep it cool so you don't burn your fingers. By the way, we used to also shape our own carbide tooling for specialized work.
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 Posted 12/30/2025  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
As others have said, this coin was damaged after it left the Mint. I've seen numerous other examples over the years.
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