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Not sure how we are arriving at a die clash diagnosis here.
What design on the reverse is it corresponding to?
It can't be a counterclash either since that requires a double clash.
This is some obscure form of doubling I've seen before but can't recall at the moment.
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Not sure how we are arriving at a die clash diagnosis here. CoinHI; I believe it to be a rotated (or off center - not sure proper term for it - sorry) of the base of the dome. Looks like the correct shape to me. What do you think? Possible? Thanks!  |
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What do you think? Possible? Possible yes - but it would be useful to see an overlay image with the area in question highlighted. Coop had a bunch of these before he stopped participating. Does anyone still have one for a Jefferson nickel? Edited by nickelsearcher
01/01/2026 05:51 am
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Thank you, -makecents-
I see that MAD is working again, too.
I will inspect the coin again to see if I can find any other clashes. I imagine that depending upon its placement, anything, regardless of how seemingly insignificant, could help verify the possibility or totally disprove it.
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Certainly possible but the clash would have to be off center.
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but the clash would have to be off center Yes Maybe I'll try contacting MAD about it. Last time I tried, though, I never got any response. Not sure if they're even active anymore. |
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Certainly lookeds like and matches a die clash.
IMHO, Since only this part of the design is affected, it's likely that one of the dies were tilted.
Being tilted could also account for the misalignment. (It isn't very much out of alignment.)
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Since only this part of the design is affected, it's likely that one of the dies were tilted.  I have been looking, but can't find any other clashes - I do start seeing "things" by looking to hard, though  That said, I'm sticking with die clash. It is the right shape and size - just a little out of place. Thank You, Everyone! |
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I don't mean to be critical, but apart from the first zoomed picture, there is way too much glare to make out any details. You need a much softer light on the fields to see weaker clashes because the features are so faint. Sometimes it also helps to tilt the coin just a tiny bit, or to have the light coming in parallel to the coin face instead of directly overhead.
I do see a bit of something in the usual position at the ponytail knot, and also between the ponytail and neck. I can't see anything on the reverse because it's too washed out with glare.
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I don't mean to be critical Brandmeister; No, critical is good! May not always seem like it - but, I actually take a lot of time trying to do the things you suggested. I just have a heck of a time with my pics! I didn't worry about the reverse here, because didn't think there was anything to see anyway - sorry. Some of you here absolutely amaze me! You see stuff in bad pics that some of us don't see with coin in hand. That said: Here are a couple more pics. I couldn't tell anything with the ponytail. There is a tiny remnant of the ponytail on reverse, and, something which I can not tell if it is a clash or not (will be marked with <?) Thanks!     |
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MAD Die Clashes seems to be down, which makes this harder. This is a strong 1988 clash from my collection.   Is that straight line emerging above the bow tip a scratch or the edge of Monticello? One thing to keep in mind here is that if the main clash is what you say (which seems possible), then the whole clash is shifted left by a considerable amount. That pointy part of the building cornice is usually within Jefferson's bust. There might even be evidence of the rim edge clashing on the right side of the coin, or the obverse rim clashing on the left side of the reverse. |
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I looked through a lot of the atypical die clashes listed and didn't see anything similar lining up.
I do agree now that it is possibly a clash as the shape matches that section of the dome.
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Having looked at a few atypical examples on MAD (which seems to keep going offline), I am wondering if it isn't Monticello shifted downwards vertically. That would make more sense for a tilted clash. The little pointed area could be some of that detail on the balconies.
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I looked through a lot of the atypical die clashes CoinHI; Yes, I looked through all of the typical and atypical examples, also. Quote:
I am wondering if it isn't Monticello shifted downwards vertically Brandmeister; That has been my thought. As far as the ponytail area - I still don't see anything there which I could confidently say is a clash. I see things which look like die scrapes and trail die-type anomalies. Again: Thank You everyone!! As frustrating as some coins can be (for me!) they also help pique my interest to try and learn more. Edited by snailking1
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