Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsCoin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

MS-63 - MS-65 (Send It Off?)

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 30 / Views: 4,069Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
1cent's Avatar
Canada
1051 Posts
 Posted 08/30/2009  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also think it's a PL. Attractive, but easily found in this condition in 1962 mint sets.
Pillar of the Community
yotie's Avatar
United States
3077 Posts
 Posted 08/30/2009  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so what is the version the has the big list price?
Pillar of the Community
papeldog's Avatar
Canada
1923 Posts
 Posted 08/30/2009  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A business strike / mint state coin in that grade would bring big returns $$$ MS-64 = $80.00, MS-65 + $1,500.00 in trends
Valued Member
dan-in-crystal-lake's Avatar
United States
493 Posts
 Posted 08/31/2009  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dan-in-crystal-lake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin looks PL to me but it might just be the way the pics are taken.

Regarding the CCCS soft package, for these heavier coins like Dollars, I would choose the hard pack.
Pillar of the Community
yotie's Avatar
United States
3077 Posts
 Posted 08/31/2009  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i belive it is PL came out of a cello pack
i was thinking RCM just made UNC sets not proofs and I am not gonna send off a coin if it is only worth 20 bucks +/-
Pillar of the Community
1cent's Avatar
Canada
1051 Posts
 Posted 08/31/2009  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it came out of a plastic sealed set, it's "PL". The coins in these sets are largely referred to as "proof like" here in Canada, and differ from specimen, business strike (MS), and proof coins. The true proofs have only been produced since 1981.

These terms in practical use differ somewhat from American terminology, and even PCGS doesn't see eye-to-eye with Canadian grading on some things. As an example, 1967 coins, especially the dollar, are sometimes called "Proof-66" or "Proof-65" by PCGS, even though no true proofs were produced in Canada until 1981, as I mentioned.

PCGS will also call a coin "MS-67 PL" from time to time, which is acceptable in US terms, but can be a little confusing for some of us here in Canada.
Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts
 Posted 08/31/2009  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1 cent, it is not confusing here in Canada, It is simply wrong! LOLOL EH!
Pillar of the Community
1cent's Avatar
Canada
1051 Posts
 Posted 08/31/2009  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, I know, let's solve this problem with a new term, we shall call it "NUBU" LOL
Pillar of the Community
yotie's Avatar
United States
3077 Posts
 Posted 08/31/2009  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok what is a specimen? is that diffrent than a business strike?

and what is a normal grade for the PL coins? PL65?
Pillar of the Community
TheForce's Avatar
United States
4870 Posts
 Posted 08/31/2009  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have found Canadian coins to be complicated...lol! But its getting easier for me. Business Strikes, Proof-Like, Proof, Specimen...aaah!!
Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts
 Posted 09/01/2009  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ROFL........1 cent....go to the corner....(LOL) NUBU or NMBU or any other STUPID NAME that a dopey, unaccountable,unapproachable company gives it....is STILL WRONG! Use the FORCE! He/She got it correct......LOLOL
Pillar of the Community
1cent's Avatar
Canada
1051 Posts
 Posted 09/01/2009  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL Quit holding back, and tell us how you REALLY feel about a certain TPG!
As Bob Dylan once said...the times, well, you know the rest. I actually submitted
my first order to the "other" TPG recently, and will probably continue doing so.
My only complaint thus far has been that TPG "A" had a pretty quick turnaround, whereas
TPG "B" is telling me up to a month wait :( As this is my trial run though, I'll just have to wait and see
how accurate that estimate is.
Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts
 Posted 09/02/2009  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1cent, you will be as pleased with CCCS as I am! :-)
Bedrock of the Community
biokemist6's Avatar
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 09/02/2009  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been reading this thread with interest in learning more about the coinage to the North so let me make sure I have it right- this coin came from a Mint Set where it is common for coins to be PL and high grade but the business strikes tend to be lower grade and almost never have PL qualities?

I will now paraphrase a situation with the US SMS sets from 1965-67- how do you determine an average, non-PL Mint Set coin from an exceptional business strike or does a potential overlap in appearance and quality not exist?
Edited by biokemist6
09/02/2009 1:59 pm
Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts
 Posted 09/02/2009  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a rule, the PL coins are produced with better dies and regulated pressure with minimal handling, Where as MS (circulating)coins will have rounder transitions to the rim. Note the perfect flatness (of the edge) of the coin presented at the start of the thread. Also the lettering will show the same flatness, the first (VERY FEW) circulating coins MAY show these as well, but after a few strikes, they are definetly rounded, not as sharp. Clear as mud? Hope it helps.
  Previous TopicReplies: 30 / Views: 4,069Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.32 seconds to rattle this change. Forums