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Liberty suffered a hit in the battle, but I'd hate to see her opponent.  The line looks to be a nearly-contemporary gouge, worn back down by circulation. That's why you can't see the initial gouge which threw up the line of metal - it's been covered by the metal it displaced. Not unusual. Quote: Can one of you Morgan aficionados straighten me out on this? Keep in mind, the letters on a coin are tapered - wider at the base than the top. That eases striking. Our attention is drawn to the highest point of the letters when we look at an uncirculated coin; we don't see the "pyramid" below it. As the coin wears, subjectively the letters get bigger. They were that wide all the time, but not worn to that point. This one has a lot of character. It did its' job for many years, something we can't say about some babied, slabbed Uncirc.
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Pillar of the Community
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thank you super dave......I never knew that, but now that you mention it It always seems that the worn coins have bigger MM's.......makes perfect sense to me now.
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Here's a shot of her nose up close. Sure does look like a gouge to me but with what, I don't know. Appears to the the imprint of some sort of implement just to the left of the gouge. Yes, the lady does have character and well earned. That's one of the things I like so much about Morgans. Even given the same year and mm, they're all different. Started out collecting ASE's but quickly got bored. Seen one, seen em all. All clones. I was also wondering about that CC mm but not for the same reason. The size of the 2 C's are different but I assume that's a normal variant. Thanks for the G6+ rating. Didn't think it was that good. And SD, as the confirmed anti-slabber that you are, have you been put on the PCGS, NGC hit list yet? Just kidding of course. Actually, I'm coming to appreciate your point of view in the regard. 
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Pillar of the Community
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I hope you didn't have to pay much for this CC coin
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Yeah, it looks like somebody got her with a knife, just a touch into the bridge of the nose and angled the same direction. You can see it clearly below the nose. Over time, the displaced metal has shifted back towards the nose, obscuring the original injury which is in shadow in your detail pic. I'm not really "anti-slab," I just hold a fairly high threshold (~$500 or important/rare/popular counterfeit) before I recommend it. My opinion might be different if I could actually afford to collect that stuff. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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G-6 cleaned, damaged. Value will be severely impeded in this condition; perhaps $45 on a good day
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice flea market find! I love going to them for coins. Sift through the over-priced ones, and I walk away with a handful of deals every time!
I'm still looking for a deal on a Morgan, but I'm sure it will happen eventually.
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I see it now clearly that you enlarged the picture. Definitely someone that used a knife or some other tool. Cut part of her nose off then, as Super pointed out, wore back down entering circulation.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Nice. It's liberty during nosejob surgery!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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definently a bad scratch or knife wound from battle, and we did some time ago discuss this issue, in reference to some wounds over time "appear" to look like die gouges....or a VAM trait...but really are battle wounds which raise the metal above surface level and then are worn back down and "closed up" hiding the initial attack wound...the DROOLING eagle comes to mind, but I forget what year and VAM that was first thought to be....Zee may remember, certainly under her forte... I think the biggest joke on ebay right now is the christ dollar "WHICH YOU CAN be suckered into for the mere price of about $70,000 ...a coin with a cross scratched into it....beggers can be choosey!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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All I can say is that's a very respectable old girl to have circulated that long with nobody paying any attention to her. Good pick up. 
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Valued Member
United States
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G6, damaged, cleaned, net AG3.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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mind telling what you paid for her?
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Rest in Peace
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I used to love flea markets when they weren't commercialized. One time a guy had rolls of silver quarters for $25 per. I told him I'd write a check for $250, let him hold my driver's license, and be back to pay cash for the check.
Took them to where the coin dealers were hanging out, sold them for $270 cash, pocketed twenty bucks for walking across the fairgrounds, and got my check and license back.
Another time, a friend was putting together a Morgan set and found a couple he needed. He told the dealer he thought $4.50 per was high, the dealersaid "Well, I'll pay $3.75" Really? We pooled our money, went to the next building, bought about 150 for $3.25 per, and made a tidy profit.
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Pillar of the Community
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Love that story Biggfredd. We have 2 flea markets here. One is huge and very commercialized and the other is, for the most part, a mom and pop type affair which is where I got this coin. Always loads of other off-the-wall things up for sale. Got an old antique mariner's clock there once for $15 which turned out to be worth $250 when I took it in to have it cleaned. I paid $35 for this CC Morgan by the way. He originally wanted more but turned out he wasn't as mercenary as the coin dealers. Another time I got an old 1940's era Grundig tabletop tube radio for $120. The kind the whole family used to sit around listening to before the days of TV. I've been offered quite a bit more for it but I'm hanging on to it. Still works great and I'm a radio man anyway. But the guy with the Morgan used to live in Reno(land of the silver dollars)and says to check back with him as he makes a couple trips back every month or so and gets good deals from people he knows. Maybe he'll show up with an 1895 !
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