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Bedrock of the Community
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For my own education, I spent some time studying tooled coins presented on another forum. Looking through Greek Sicily coins, I ran across a few myself that have me going  . Not to name names, but these are all for sale by various dealers on vcoins. None are disclosed as tooled, but I suspect a few are definite, others "helped" at best. What do you think? #1. Too good to be true?  #2.  #3. Original--really? No mention of tooling.  #4.  #5. What did this look like originally?  #6. A little help?  Edited by DVCollector
01/21/2012 5:59 pm
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1, Reverse looks like it might have been worked a bit.
2, Looks natural to me.
3, Obverse tooled.
4, Hair tooled.
5, Looks natural
6, Also look natural.
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Bedrock of the Community
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At second thought, I think #2 is natural too. I've seen corrosion "sharpen" transitions between fields and relief.
#3--I think the horse's front legs are tooled as well.
#6--I think you're right there. If they tooled around the legs, they would probably remove the verdigris too.
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Pillar of the Community
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1. Tooled on reverse
2. Original
3. Original
4. Probably tooled
5. Original
6. Original
That's my take on these.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm terrible at this, but the only one I can say I believe to be tooled is #3. The rest look OK to me even though #1 looks like someone tried to clean it up some.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Edited by DVCollector
01/22/2012 11:39 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with echizento's list but, more with DV's motto "Whenver there is any doubt, there is no doubt"
I'd welcome to my collection #1 and #6. The others are either lacking in eye appeal or augmented.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yeah--I guess it can't hurt to trust my gut instincts on "eye appeal" either.  Basically, I'm leery of any coin that shows either incised details of unwavering thickness, or grooves where the fields meet figures in relief--dies aren't normally made in a way to impress such details on a coin. Thanks again for all your input. To keep the subject fresh in my mind, I'll keep posting coins as I find them; you're welcome to do the same. For now, here is a coin nicknamed "Mr. Tooly" on another site.   |
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That is one of the worst tooled coins that I've seen.
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Pillar of the Community
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I dont know if I like tooled coins especially not liking MR. TOOLEY, but I would pick coins 2 and 4 for my collection because of the colors and 6 looks nice too but has BD spots on it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Apologies for "Mr. Tooley". I wouldn't mind #1, 2, or 6 in my collection.
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Pillar of the Community
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haha no apologies needed thats a funny looking coin, poor thing.  here is one of my greeks that I sold because of the BD.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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This is an example of a coin that cant be "cured" the BD goes deep into the coin as you can see with the dark red spots inside the green. Too bad it was a nice one. This being said I think that coin 6 can be fixed, it doesn't look too bad. Depending on how you would go about doing that with heat being the least damaging. mechanical methods will leave a crater.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yeah--that one of yours is serious.  Poor coin, it's like terminal cancer. |
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Posted 01/21/2012 9:10 pm
