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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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Thanks Sap, I did scan the first few pages to see if this had already been discussed and since I didn't see it I posted thinking that it would be bad form to bump a very old thread but clearly this is an issue for many.
In the UK we have been known to complain about the mail (they like to stike every now and then and sometimes it is slow) but generally I always trusted it and never had anything lost internally.
Pressumably there is some element of fraudulently claiming items have been lost but thats not my game, I just wanted a black eagle note that was relatively clean and didn't cost me a fortune and when I saw one I put all my attention looking at the scan and when I liked what I saw I got happy and clicked buy it now only to discover this problem.
This is my inexperience, its been a long time since I purchased anything and that was before this sort of stuff was mainly netbased (there used to be many more shops you could walk into but now theres only a couple of decent coin shops in London)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I really would like to work out an "arrangement" with anybody worldwide, but I have a feeling that, for most part, there are good honest people all over, but there are the unscrupulous few who ruin it for the remainder.  Edited by oih82w8
06/29/2012 08:51 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36826 Posts |
I quit shipping overseas because of the thefts in the mail systems. Even had a registered packet not show up at it's intended location in Italy. After that I stopped shipping anything not going to USA or Canada. The customs forms taped to the outside of the package say steal me, I have value.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would also like to know how to fill in the custom description area to avoid custom open package for inspection.
Currency and Note value at $$$$?
Numismatic Item value at $$$$? What the _____ is numismatic? Let see!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Value = SAMPLE  I guess that I have been very fortunate with my overseas brethren.  Although now I am beginning to wonder if I was just lucky? Edited by oih82w8
06/29/2012 3:09 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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I have now ceased shipping coins overseas on ecrater. U.S. addresses only.
Just don't want to take chances anymore. Can't insure, can't ship.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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In my case it was an old $1 note, it isn't insured but it has a number so the seller can tell if it has been delivered or not.
In that case I would be inclined to describe it as "Documents" place it in between some card or paper and then declare its value as face value. This way it is unlikely to be stolen and any chance of being chased for import/export is unlikely.
More expensive items I would just state that the buyer must pay the insurance and then use a decent firm. As for the description I have no clue, especially in the case of coins where the x ray will pick up the contents; with paper money there is no issue with that.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Still don't see a lot which offer to ship to Canada. =( If they do it is a fortune.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Tristen not sure how much it costs but I know LLC Coins and David Lawrence have ebay pages and ship to canada. May get a better rate from them being larger dealers as opposed to an individual who cant afford to take losses on shipping |
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United States
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As a seller of coin on ebay, I discovered at my Post Office, that many counties have prohibitions and/or restrictions on receiving coins and banknotes from the US. So now I check the "Conditions of Mailing"...I uploaded a link to USPS website for Australia as an example..this info has been very helpful for knowing where I can send my coins. I do require registered for over certain values because as you all said, no proof of delivery, paypal holds sender responsible. I hope this helps. Some countries do exempt coins or banknotes for ornament only. In these cases I understand the country can confiscate the item. http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/ab_012.htm#ep1572941 "Country Conditions for Mailing -- Australia Prohibitions (130) Coins; bank notes; currency notes (paper money); securities of any kind payable to bearer; traveler's checks; platinum, gold, and silver (except for jewelry items meeting the requirement in "Restrictions" below); precious stones (except when contained in jewelry items meeting the requirement in "Restrictions" below); and other valuable articles are prohibited....." The worse is when you can't mail a coin to a buyer in the country the coin originated........Enjoyed all of your comments!   Edited by hpt2bretired
07/09/2012 12:18 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I used to live in Germany and The Netherlands, I had very good experience with the mail system. I even literary bank with them, in Germany you can open a bank and saving account in the Post Office. Even the mailman carries cash and pays me in front of my door step if I received money order. It was Government run post, since beginning of 1980s, private enterprise took over and I believe it is still done that way.
The Paypal regulation with American customer satisfaction way of thinking makes us harder to sell to those two countries. I know that there is a risk to sell if we find bad buyer.
Here in the forum among us, we buy and sell coins all the time. We are close community everybody knows each other, except the new guys they have to wait anyway. I had good experiences buying or swapping coins with other members. I haven't sold anything yet since I am not there yet. Confirm me how is your experiences with other members?
The payment was always Paypal gift, as a gift, there will not be any fee or claim right anyway. All discrepancies could be resolved in the forum fair and peacefully. We may list all transactions and responses, so the bad apple will shows by itself in time.
What do you think guys?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I haven't traded with anyone here yet Sam but I will show some trust with some small trades and see how I get on before moving to anything more substantial.
I received the Black Eagle note today that prompted this thread (I ordered it not realising he only shipped to USA and he made an exception) Three weeks was a long time to wait but it showed up today...They put a note through my door one week ago that I would have to pay a further £17 (about $25 dollars) It seemed cheap for an intact note (though it is a little grubby in the flesh) and after the extra expense I see it wasn't a massive bargain.
That was because he declared the value as $75 and they charged VAT and a fee on the package. (items over £40 are eligable for customs duties) He returned $10 to me and he wasn't unreasonable but we will both learn from that experience.
Really when declaring "value" you can be creative, it was an old $1 bill, its value could be declared a $1 or $200 because there are 100 ways to interpret an items value.
I bought 10 other notes in the period while this one was being delivered and none of them had the same problem, the contents of the package was written on it as "rare $1 note from 1899" which is like an advert for theft and it wasnt insured (just tracked)
A bank note is a piece of paper, it can be described as "document" or "sample" or "printed paper" if so surely it would not attract any attention and the odds of it going wrong are pretty low.
Anyway of all the notes I bought this past month I had excellent service from one seller who holds a good stock and I will return to repeatedly. Also I found a high end dealer with amazing products out of my price range and with very heavy postage costs, it cost me $37.50 for a $1 red seal 1928 small note but the condition surpased my expectations so I was very happy with it.
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07/17/2012 9:46 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Really when declaring "value" you can be creative, it was an old $1 bill, its value could be declared a $1 or $200 because there are 100 ways to interpret an items value. Which would have been the smarter route to avoid theft and fees, however the one downside is insuring it or if it gets lost. Kind of a fine line of how much you want to avoid fees but would lose on any lost or stolen package claim |
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Really when declaring "value" you can be creative, it was an old $1 bill, its value could be declared a $1 or $200 because there are 100 ways to interpret an items value. Yeah, walk into the PO and declare it for $1 on the customs form, the try to insure it for $200.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The whole customs declaration thing is confusing. Much easier just to sell in the US.
Don't understand how the concept of declared value and duty has survived in the modern world. Think it lost it's effectiveness in the middle of the last century.
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