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1870 8/5 Dime I Had This Posted Before But Now Certified

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 Posted 08/03/2013  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I checked my 4; all VF20-EF45; 3 X Narrow & 1 X Wide. Nothing notable on the dates of the Narrows. Here's the date for the Wide. Maybe a 1/1?

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 Posted 08/03/2013  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
kuh, your 1 looks exactly like the 1 on mine ? a re-punched 1 ?
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 Posted 08/03/2013  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Artdio

I hope more pop up for you. I would hold on to it because I think there would be more value to it when and if others are found. It's the discovery of new varieties that help keep interest in the hobby.
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 Posted 08/03/2013  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good, high-resolution photographs (and I cannot stress the word good enough here) with overlay images would help immensely. Did anyone try searching the Heritage Auction archives and PCGS registry? I am not a 10-cent collector, so I'll leave the fun part to someone else...

That said, tfred is right when it comes to the auction house, and I also concur with DBM.... at this point, all I can say is good luck in your hunt.
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Roger all I have is my 10.2 megapixels kodak digi.....The pic of the date was a scan because when I try to zoom with my cam images get distorted...I wish I had access to a great Microscope and cam to get awe pics through plastic but I dont...
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 Posted 08/03/2013  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@artdio - I used a USB microscope 2MP for the picture. You can pick them up pretty cheap these days ($50 or less). I got mine a couple of years back so they're even higher resolution for cheaper prices now. Just run a search in ebay or Google.
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 Posted 08/03/2013  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a microscope but sometimes hold a magnifying glass to the end of my digital camera and get better results.
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Thanks Kuh, I will have a look , just seems like a waste since I'm not a variety searcher or collector. At Coin Chick thanks also.. I tried that but no luck....
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artdio I got this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-LED-2-M..._4211wt_1240
And it takes half decent pictures once you learn how to use it. Here is a pic I took with it... ;)
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Thanks Jko... by the way great pics and super detail... But how will it work through the hard plastic ?
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If this coin was from say Beltzberg , or Pittman or any other huge name the coin would simply be accepted..tell me I'm wrong


You're wrong. If Pittman was on here people would take a bite out of his ass. As Pittman, MORE would be expected of him than simply claiming it was fact because CCCS put it on a slab.

We see this a lot on here. Someone insisting they have something rare and valuable, and getting frustrated when people don't immediately agree.

Simple tenant: Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof.

I trust you realize you are making an extraordinary claim.






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dialog, I am not the only one who sees this for what it is.. In fact it was shown to quite a few well versed collectors and all say same thing.. Louis has I believe another person also who verifies coins before slabbing, so again more than one set of eyes...Also another grading firm said they would grade it but only if Charlton put it in the book first ? even though they could see it.. And yes but from day 1 when I first posted this months ago I asked that all collectors look and check for this coin... I have done my due diligence so what else can I do.. Its not up to me to prove it exists as I have 1, but for other collectors to start searching....And on another note.. ALL varieties have to start with 1 , until others are searched well I have 1 so others can start now ...
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It looks like my 1558/1858, for the "8" over 5 at least. I could see mine in a lot on ebay even tho it came back AG-3 from ICCS. Yours can be easily seen for me.
In your next life you could simply say, hey guys I found a 1858 with the first 8/5 showing only the 18 and people would just and say how nice it is and easy to see ;).
Question for you. Is the A doubled like for the 1858?
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That 8 over 5 looks good to me.
An interesting fact is the 1870 minting came directly after the 1858 minting---the same technique for a repair job in the same era.
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As far as the Province of Canada 10c reverse punch was concerned, the 1870 coinage wasn't exactly the next one for which it saw use. The same punch (with the 58 ground off) was used for the New Brunswick 10c of 1862-64.

What would really help with the attribution of the 1870 piece, of course, would be for a better condition piece to turn up. Until then you could be facing an uphill battle for its acceptance because of how much the detail of digits and letters can be distorted by the wear and tear of circulation.
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