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Another Ebay Vendor Selling Counterfeits Beware

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 Posted 08/19/2013  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought that all these coins are still usable in Canada (at least if someone is willing to take them for face value).

If the above statement is correct then does not possession of any copy make it illegal?

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 Posted 08/19/2013  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is illegal to own, attempt to own, barter, offer to barter or attempt to have them brought into Canada.
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 Posted 08/19/2013  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is illegal to own, attempt to own, barter, offer to barter or attempt to have them brought into Canada.


So technically speaking they could be caught at the border and the person ordering them could be charged?
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 Posted 08/19/2013  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So if these coins are illegal in Canada, why is the RCM not using its political powers to get the CBSA and RCMP to pressure the Chinese government to stop these operations?
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 Posted 08/20/2013  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The RCM does nothing. The copying of coins made prior to 1949 is not illegal in China. Even Chinese coins prior to that date may be duplicated.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understands that making copies of coins are legal in China, its a practise that should not be done, look there are fake pandas probably made in China. in Canada who else but the RCM has the copyrights and the legal rights to protect our coinage. As everyone on this forum knows about the recent copies of RCM nclt and maple leafs, why would any collector buy any new issue, if the RCM just does nothing.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The copying of coins made prior to 1949 is not illegal in China

The NCLT coins are legal tender(nominally) and dated post 1949.Does that not make them illegal to produce in China?

PS. nickelsguy is identification of counterfeit NCLT a part of your battle against the spread of Chinese counterfeits?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 08/20/2013  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is DBM. There is a battle brewing which is being forced on the RCM. They could care less about the collectors out there. There are so few that actually confront them and the vast majority continue to purchase the garbage they produce. The next 90 to 120 days should be very interesting. p.s. imagine handing a counterfeit gold coin to a MP. Then telling/showing them a letter from the RCM which advises that the counterfeit NCLT stuff does not exist and is only for sale on scam sites. Was a lot of fun.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We all commend nicklesguys ongoing effort on this issue, in regards to nclt coins they are all encapsulated, if there is a rash of well produced counterfeits, how do one check crack them out of the capsule and do a xrf. The collectors who own the ladybug coin for example, what value would they be if good copies enter the market place.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As with the numismatic coins counterfeited, each and every counterfeit NCLT coin will have markers from the dies. They are identifiable and are being done.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My biggest worry is that they flood the market and then everything loses value. It does put a dent into collecting the real things.
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 Posted 08/21/2013  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Paisa, the information will be gathered and dispersed. The educated collector has nothing to worry about. Trust your dealers and reputable sellers. If the deal looks to good to be true......it usually is. Give me time to gather and disperse the info. I just wish the RCM would help. They do nothing and yet people continue to buy the garbage. No one except a few hold them accountable.
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 Posted 08/23/2013  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kijiji2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/21/2013  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coins_2013 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/21/2013  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lyradnoj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently so...
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