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New Member
Czech Republic
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Edited by sprag
09/29/2013 2:47 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These appear to be dies from two different years. Not sure how that's possible... but there are clear differences in the two sides.
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New Member
 Czech Republic
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How can you tell that there was 2 different dies used?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I see the differences too, but it seems like it could just be a more worn die? Maybe the obverse wore out and they replaced it with the wrong die so you have a fresh and worn paired together?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well the side in the second picture, the center metal piece is smaller in relation to placement of features and the details not as fine as the side in the first picture. Both factors varied over the years, so this very much looks like dies from different years. Either someone in the mint was able to make them for personal gain, or NGC made a mistake here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Also wanted to add that the obverse and reverse dies have somewhat different means of holding them in place. It would have taken effort with intent to put a reverse die in the place of an obverse die, not a mere accident.
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Australia
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Isn't the grade unusually too high? Thought for AU58 - there shouldn't be a huge scratch in the middle of the field. I could be wrong.
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United Kingdom
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There are two gouges or very deep scratches on one side.
I've seen better coins get termed 'details'.
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New Member
Czech Republic
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slightly wear on the field yes, and that is if you look at the coin very closely. The picture uploaded is about 10x or more inlarged, you wouldn't even notice it looking at it with your own 2 eyes.
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New Member
Czech Republic
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Here is the other Euro set which was recently certified , http://minterrornews.com/issue2.pdf however, the $2EUR was the last one anyone expected to see certified, the $2EUR double sided is famous among magicians, the so called " Magic coin" and a true genuine one was only a Myth back in the days. |
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Czech Republic
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When the first few 1 cent came around,they went for around $1200. The price dramatically dropped to almost $300-500 after the population of the 2 tail/2 headed 1 cent rised. As far as I know, the 5,20 and 50 cent are scarce and I heard that only 1 Genuine $1 euro example exist.
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New Member
Czech Republic
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New Member
Czech Republic
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Here is another one that I own, I have yet to send it for grading but It's genuine. a 1974 Mule with 2 Observe dies, 5 cent.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Both of these coins were posted on this forum by a member "triplestruck" a year ago
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Rest in Peace
 United States
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Good memory. I wonder if triplestruck was the OP's grandfather?
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Canada
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Wow! I have also seen on ebay some un-struck 1 and 2 euro planchets. I thought "raw and from Italy? probably a scam" - but the 2-euro planchet had the correct edge lettering. Maybe the dies that would have struck that blank planchet were instead mistakenly used for this 4-Euro coin... |
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