1918 Illinois Centennial Error (Rotated Dies)

Interesting piece, thanks for sharing it with us!

Though I consider myself a fairly avid collector of US commemorative coins, I haven't come across a similar example in my travels. I should note, however, that I also have not gone looking for such a piece.

I would suggest that one reason you haven't been able to find other examples listed is because rotations like the example you've shown are considered relatively minor and do not command the same interest level as more significant rotations. Others similar to yours are likely out there but their degree of rotation has not been considered an important enough attribute to note during a sale.

While a coin with a rotation of approximately 30% is a bit beyond typical US Mint Tolerances (the error and variety collectors organization CONECA indicates that any rotation within +/- 15% is within tolerances), it is not considered a "major" rotation. My understanding is that coins with 90 degrees or more of rotation fall into the "major" category and are the ones that carry the most significant premium.

All that said, you might find a buyer who is willing to pay you a bit more than they would for a coin in similar condition; I do not believe the premium would be significant, however. Your coin definitely appears to be an example that has significant circulation wear - that alone will interest some collectors.

Good luck!

Thank you both for your feedback, and opinions. They are valued and appreciated.

I am an avid Morgan collector; but also a Barber series addict, as it were. So the Cherry Picker's guide is always at-hand. lol I could not find anything on the 1918; nor about it (errors-notable or common) online -- and I genuinely searched for hours today.

I took the coin to two local dealers whom I have great relationships with... it raised smiles and even one, "You've got a keeper there, Sport."

You are certainly bang-on Nickelsearcher, I (and others) place it around a solid VF, in-hand. And Commems, nail on the head with tolerance of 15 degrees.

An avid collector saying they have not come across one makes it a rare piece, if only in my eyes. I'm very happy with it. So thank you again for that feedback.

Again, thank you both for responding. It gave me piece of mind, and more answers than were not available anywhere else online.

Cheers!

Interesting? You want to insinuate someone has done something untoward, but do not tell the entire story? Nor any mention that there is/was absolutely nothing misleading in that listing.

I threw it out there 'to see what happens' for a few days. Ask a high price... However, a key portion which you left out was that it was (past tense) listed as a 'Buy it now'/'Best offer'. Odd that you would neglect to mention that portion? Was that intentional to make some sort of besmirching point?

So, for any others who may go looking for it, as you clearly dedicated some time to it, I feel since that is something I do to assist in feeding my children, your 'buyer beware' remark is/was both uncalled for, and unwarranted, even stranger-to-stranger, rather insulting.

Please use a little more tact in the future when you do such things. I was trying to find out why there were no others listed, mentioned, cited, anywhere, via any medium. What I did not do, for example, I did not take a 2005 Quarter, Struck Through Grease and ask $80,000 for it (one I noticed which particularly amused me lately). But I feel as though you have essentially compared me to the likes which do asinine things like that.

I extended my sincere appreciation for the feedback; which stands. It is appreciated. But when an avid error collector (whom I greatly respect), in person, disagreed with the assessment that over 30 degree rotation is a minor error ("an error is an error" was his quote), I thought I would see what the market said -- since no other resource does say anything.

Again, thank you for your input; but in the future, perhaps, tell all the facts when attempting to belittle someone/lecture someone/ talk down to someone/make someone look foolish. I have a very good track record as a seller, and as a frequent buyer. With a very sound reputation.

I do ask questions to educate myself. I made it vehemently clear that I am a Barber and Morgan collector; I must have missed, however, any written disclaimer or unwritten rule that any information gained here may not be used for the purposes of sale or trade.

There was/is nothing misleading, again nothing, about the listing I posted. Nothing. But for any readers who come along (and for your 'piece of mind') the intention was, in fact, to gauge interest, if any, of what an error collector may show in it. I got my answer, and the coin was re-listed, in auction form, with no reserve, for .99c.

With that said: have a pleasant day. And thank you again for your feedback -- Even your grossly misleading personal post.

Just have to say...

I believe the negative comments directed at nickelsearcher - a long-time CCF participant and one of its most knowledgeable and respected contributors - are an unnecessary overreaction.

In time, I hope each of you come to recognize the value of his many CCF contributions.

Much appreciated, errorsinmychange. While I have 'gotten over it', as it were; one cannot fight those whose use station as a justification for carte blanche commentary rights. Nor those with equal station who 'back them up'.

This forum is generally a very positive place, with very helpful people. Including both Commems and nickelsearcher. I've read many of their posts and replies. Both are knowledgeable and accommodating to all in their respected specialties.

Don't allow this thread discourage you from utilizing this forum, for whatever your reason; be it discussion, information (hobby, buying, selling), or simply responding with your knowledge to a question.

The web is wrought with forums run and overwhelmed with the numismatists of old... snobby, cliquey, and embolden to an era and attitude of the past. It is a rapidly growing hobby; but there are those with quasi-elitist attitudes which are, thankfully, dying away. Again, you will not find that here on CCF, 99.999% of the time.

I have learned multiple things from this thread: I've learned a little more about commemorative coins. I've learned about errors (or lack thereof) on a specific coin. And I've learned that when speaking about a coin in relation to selling that it's probably best to note that your question(s) are in that regard, as some take offense to using that/their information in order to ensure that potential buyers are not mislead, badly -- It is an unfortunate stigma involved in being a coin seller... automatically negative... Despite the fact that I am a collector first, all else a distant second.

I too will be 'letting this go' now. It is neither productive, proactive, nor positive in any light. I said my piece as well regarding what I felt was clear insinuation; and that is that, as it were. Let's move on and continue helping to bring numismatics to new heights via this positive environment.

Cheers.