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Rare Unstruck Penny King George V Era Dates 1920 To 1936

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 Posted 01/19/2015  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The die itself is pretty big.

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Image from Wexler's Die Varieties if you want to read on how the dies are made.

Edit: Dies are usually fixed on which one is the hammer or the anvil. For Canadian small cents, the reverse die is the hammer die.
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01/19/2015 11:36 pm
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 Posted 01/19/2015  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wazzappenning to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmm, interesting. so that is one solid piece? I would have thought the replaceable part would have been smaller.
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 Posted 01/20/2015  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that's the anvil die slur, the hammer die is the exact diameter that the coin is.

Wazz, if you were to take out the die, there would be nothing in place to strike it, theres no "what about the thing holding the die in place" because 1. it is almost certainly not a flat surface. 2. even if it was, it would need to cover an extra 3-4 inches to even reach the anvil die, which would be mechanically impossible. And 3. if both of those cases were somehow true it wouldn't be the came diameter of the coin that is being struck to it would just smash into the collar and not get struck.
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 Posted 01/20/2015  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oops! Should have looked twice before just seeing "die" and pasting the link. Here's a lot of dies:

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 Posted 01/20/2015  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wazzappenning to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for that. I really had no idea what they looked like and had it in my mind that they would be maybe 2 or 3 times the thickness of a coin and attached to the rod with some retaining device.
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 Posted 01/20/2015  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like that kind of die would shatter real fast, too thin.
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 Posted 01/20/2015  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M_d_in_guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ty Slur for posting the die pics and info as well as the links, good food for info junkies lol.
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 Posted 01/25/2015  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just wondering what the experts at the coin expo had to say about this coin...hmmmmmm
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 Posted 02/09/2015  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any updates?

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Coin Expo is not until the end of May.... Patience you must have...
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yes and update. for sure SPP . I will look you up at the show. have had some measurement done on the coin. the king George V bust is a different size and the lettering around the coin is not the same distance from the edge of the coin . talked to a couple of collectors here we compared the coin to about 30 coins from 1920 to 1936 same results every time. we all think it is the same as one of the members here mentioned it had to be a test coin . some of there thoughts are when the mint was going from the large coin to the smaller coin. that the mint may have pressed some test coins for approval and some how this one got out. I will bring it to you and you can see for yourself. have a great day.
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thought I would add a couple of new pictures trying to get a better picture. hope this helps

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 Posted 05/17/2015  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Coin expo is soon :)
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So if the OP's 1920 coin IS proven real,

what kind of value would it bring?
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Not that much... all errors are basically unique. It is the "wow factor" and demand that dictates the price... As an example, off-centre 1967 5-cent coins are always fetching a higher price than similar off-centres from other years...
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