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Rare Unstruck Penny King George V Era Dates 1920 To 1936

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 Posted 01/17/2015  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
perhaps it was a presentation piece for the obverse design or a one sided trial strike to see how effective the design would be on copper or something along those lines, if this is the case than that would explain the offers you were receiving. one sided trials like this are known but are usually on pieces of metal larger than the die.

not trying to raise hopes of something like this, just thinking out loud.
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 Posted 01/17/2015  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that were the case dollarman, then the rim would still be upset, the mint wouldn't go through the trouble of filing off the rim just because
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perhaps the way it was struck, without a collar right up against the edge of the die like usual there was no sharp rim but just the impression of the die.
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 Posted 01/17/2015  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry SPP for my typing mistake. I will look you up. I want to make sure you see this coin. we will go from there, again thank you
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Interesting coin! I am interested to even bring this up... however is it possible that the "blank" made it's way into the dies, and the obverse die was the only one. lets say that the reverse die was taken out. so in other words: blank reverse and struck obverse.
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 Posted 01/18/2015  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vancouver you cant strike a coin without two dies, what would you expect the the coin to be struck by?
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These are mine and they're real.
A blank is not a planchet until its rimmed. When it is struck the force of pressure pushes the coin tight to the collar, thus completing the standing up of the rim. Keep in mind copper is soft and malleable so the possibilities of how it could happen are plenty.

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A damaged small cent worth one cent.
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what kind of sheer "explosive" pressure is needed to press / strike a coin, like for example this 1967 cent?
I would think that there is a time factor also involved and it has to be fast to keep the metal soft.
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what kind of sheer "explosive" pressure is needed to press / strike a coin,

Oh about 30 tons (penny) & 60 for a quarter.

I already stated in my first reply that I think its PMD, Magicians coin. Thats still what I think But I'mjust trying to give the OP the benefit of the doubt as he has stated others have looked and offered. Why not just wait.
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thank you pennyman007 those coins impressive. I have a couple like them . I found going through penny rolls. I don't know if you collectors heard about the two dollar coin. that sold about 6 to 8 years ago that came out of the mint. I believe it was in a specimen set sealed in that plastic. a collector payed 100,000,00 dollars for that set . the two dollar coin was never struck on the obverse. so how did it get in that set. these things happen. like stamps never being perfed. quality control is there but it still happens. The penny I have is so different , then the issue ones but yet it was produced along the same lines just slightly different, SPP I think will help us all out have a great day and may you all find many rewarding coins
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SSP the Coin Expo you refer to is that the one in May in Toronto ?
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yes it is . I will take this coin to that show. there is a dealer that I have send him pics, he has a couple of collectors that are very interested in this coin. plus he knows the dealers from the show I went to with the coin. they wanted to buy it themselves. I thought I would hold on to it for a while longer but the time is getting right to sell it.
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Thanks rocky
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ok, for the missing die idea. slurs diagram has the complete hammer missing. put it like this. your mother made you a great sandwich, but she put cheese on it, which you hate. do you ditch the whole sandwich or pull off the cheese and save the sandwich?

in machinery, it would be way too expensive to replace the entire hammer each time a die wears, so the die must be replaceable at the end of the hammer. if the die is missing, what strikes the coin? can a die be installed upsidedown?

adam e, I would think the larger diameter of this would be an out of collar strike anyways, but dont know how large the surface the die sits on is? as for the reach, think die clash. although how thick are the dies? is that too much dead space?

im not saying I'm right, or have all the answers here, was just thinking out loud as to a possibility. only time will tell, just hate waiting till may.
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