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The weight issue has been discussed before and was shown by referring to out Canadian members to be valid.
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Yet, they still did it and have kept it. They are still up there. Living peacefully. No revolutions, no civil unrest, no insurrections.
I think this is missing the main point here. The US was founded on by people who never wanted anything to do with tryanny. The very thought the government could force them, against their wishes, to do anything (again - this is not a moral issue or an issue of safety), would NOT have been palatable to them. nor is it to those of us who were around before our government became so outwardly oppressive that people have forgotten this.
What has not been taught in schools for so very long is that our form of government was founded to be the servant of the people. Our Constitution was written to limit its powers so it would not be able to bully its people into line. Our Constitution was once called the most important export or country offered the world b/c it showed people the way to true freedoms. And the sad part is we live in a day when people are more than willing to give up small freedoms, a bit at a time, thinking it is no big deal.
The other solution of making new coinage and with a higher value eliminates any way the government could be seen as overstepping its bounds and forcing the American people into something they overwhelmingly have shown they do not want.
I have yet to see anyone address why the new coinage concept, which eliminates government bullying is not the best way to go.
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When the dollar is PERCEIVED (note that word) as pocket change it will (and did in Canada) mean prices immediately jumped upwards - and back then the 2.00 coin followed partially from the result since 1.00 would not buy what it did.
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The citation I have on this is having been a part of that era of Canadian history. Although living in the States, I was close to the border, and as a coin collector I was closely observing he impact of the Loony b/c the people then (many of my personal friends) were upset they were being forced into it. It is their arguments from back then I cite. But the degree to which eye witness accounts matter anymore seems of little value in today;s society unless it fits with desired notions. I am sure that if there were records of some sort kept concerning such things that homework on the issue would prove what was witnessed back then.
And, of course, now a new generation has come of Canadians who never experienced having a choice. in fact the Loony has become a sense of Canadian pride. But at the time it was being introduced, the Canadians did not want it - review previous threads with Canadians answering these issues. And the banks I used to visit told me they thought the US would be smart enough to learn by their mistake of the Loony, but instead we were going to make the Sac dollars (which I personal do like for collecting).
Our current society has devalued the uniqueness of what America was based upon. Like most other governments wordwide, the Canadian government can force its people to do its wishes (remember I love Canadians and see Canada like it is a second, unofficial home), however, in the US this is not supposed to happen. Again I cite in the last couple of years where the government intruded to make companies no longer produce incandescent bulbs. It is insane the government believed it had the "right" to do so.
The truth of most of this matter, as with all human discussions, is that emotions are what tends to drive the points people try to make.
There are two main emotions behind the points I am making:
1. I do not want to have to spend more of my hard earned money b/c of a government policy.
2. I am angered at the government when they think they have the right to force the US people do do something when there is an obvious solution which would not require this.
I see the discussion as being, therefore, a weighing out of emotional attachment.
Is the desire for a dollar coins so strong that we are willing to allow government to force their wishes (and the wished of a minority of the people) on the whole of the US (and overstepping the intended, original format of the US {note that} governent) ... especially when there is a very viable alternative?
And as long as I am writing a book...
Personally I like Loonies, Toonies, some Sacs, and some of the presidential coins to collect them. So I am glad they were made. I am thrilled that an Ike is coming out and am very much looking forward to the JFK (I like the halves and politics of the man - lets ignore the private life) Reagan dollar.
But I have weighed my personal emotional attachment against the bigger picture. It is very. very easy to give up some freedoms, but it almost takes bloodshed to get them back.
The current waste of money can be alleviated through a legitimate, alternate plan. So although I admit I may be mistaken, I see people advocating the government being allowed to force us into their wishes as peeping out from behind a set of blinders that are labeled, "I LIKE dollar coins." This metaphor is NOT derogatory.
And to me, globalism is a non-issue. I have no desire to live by another country's's standards. Let the rest of the world do what they want to. History proves the American way (of the People, By the People, for the People) has benefited almost every person on the face of the earth in some way or another. I am proud the US is different - and always has been - than the rest of the world. We are not "behind the times" because we don't have a dollar coin. We are behind the times in making OUR coinage and bills fit for OUR OWN own society.
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Posted 01/25/2015 11:06 pm
20% inflation would result in a doubling of prices in less than 4 years; 30% in less than three. Describe any reasonable basket of goods that has doubled in price in that time.
