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1781 North American Token

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Hello all, just won this coin in an auction and was looking for opinions on grade please. Thank you!

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 Posted 05/07/2015  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just recently saw one of these. Here's the link to the other.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1781-North-...em3aa19e21b2
I have absolutely no idea how to attribute one of these. I'm sure Breen probably wrote a book about them.
As far as grade I'd have to say F-12, maybe F-15 but the coin does show some honest wear. The coin is well struck on a nice planchet and has a great color.
Great coin.
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 Posted 05/08/2015  12:02 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
defineitely a favourite token of mine, wish I had one :(. I wouldn't go past a fine 12 on her though.
Feel free to call me Will.
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F-12 is good enough for me! I actually put this guy in my trade list, it was an impulse buy I guess and doesn't really fit my collection.
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 Posted 05/08/2015  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pytellc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone able to nail down the attribution?
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 Posted 05/08/2015  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll do some research after I get off work and I'll get back to you. The link I posted has a similar coin with a Breen number so maybe I can find something.
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 Posted 05/08/2015  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pytellc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome! Thanks Celtic.
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 Posted 05/08/2015  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only information I can provide http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/Col...a.intro.html

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O.K. I've nailed down the attribution to Breen-1144. There is also a reference to a Haxby-15 designation as well. These were minted in copper and in brass. There is only one other variety the Breen-1143 in which the position of the lettering is a bit different. The Breen numbers referenced are from Walter Breen's Complete Encyclopedia of U.S. and Colonial Coins.
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Thanks Celtic!
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The Whitman Encyclopedia of Colonial and Early American Coins only cites one variety for this token, W-13980. See P. 291.
It references Breen's numbers as 1143 (brass), and 1144 (copper).
URS -11. 500 to 999 specimens known.

URS is the rarity rating used by the encyclopedia.

Regarding grading it notes 'skill is required to grade this issue. High grade coins are rare'.

I grade the coin as F12, possible F15 based on copper cent standards.
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05/09/2015 03:57 am
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 Posted 05/09/2015  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
It references Breen's numbers as 1143 (brass), and 1144 (copper).

I thought that was the case but I wasn't sure.
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 Posted 05/09/2015  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F-12, nice piece.
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