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95.5% Of 12 Ceasars Set In Silver- Post Or No Post?

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 Posted 08/09/2017  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another great set. That Nero portrait is fantastic...very expressive. And I gotta say also: exceptional photographic work! Well done.
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 Posted 08/09/2017  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orfew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great second three. The Gaius drachm is particularly nice, but that Claudius is excellent.
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Gentlemen (and what Ladies there may be),
I fear that other commitments for the day are going to prevent me from putting up the next trio today as I had hoped. The write-ups are not finished, but I have to attend to other matters today. However, I fully expect to be able to post them sometime tomorrow. With luck I will be able to replace this post with the next segment. 'Til then.

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 Posted 08/11/2017  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Phooey! I missed the 24 hour cutoff.
Can the mods replace my last with this and leave it open for me to add the other two?




Servius Sulpicius Galba (68-69)
(BMCRE 8; RSC 55; RIC 4)
Minted at Rome


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IMP SER GALBA CAESAR AVG

bare bust of Galba, laureate, facing r.

The facial features on this coin are not common to his coins generally, but are known on other examples. The prominent nose with the disfiguring bulb just below the supraorbital ridge (prominent eyebrow) and strongly defined zygomatic arch (cheekbone) gives a crude, almost bestial appearance to the emperor's visage. A respondent to a similar image on a coin (of orphew) at another site commented, "I wonder if it has to do with the fact that Galba only ruled for 7 months. Perhaps the engravers at the various mints [sic] simply didn't have enough time and practice to settle into a more-or-less homogeneous style. ... One sees a hint of Nero in Galba's busts, and I can even imagine the engravers being told, "Well he looks like Nero, but with a smaller head and a larger, aquiline nose." Since there are examples with a similar, though less prominent bulb on the nose, and some without anything like it altogether, on other coins, it would seem that there was indeed some confusion about just how to represent the actual feature.


DIVA AVGVSTA
Livia draped, standing left, holding patera in r. hand and long scepter in left

On the use of Livia for the reverse, Mattingly commented thusly: "Livia, consecrated by Claudius, is represented as a divine being with scepter and patera. Suetonius tells us that Livia had assisted Galba in his youthful career...." to which he appends the quotation in Latin to the effect that: Augusta Livia is noteworthy above all on account of her gracious life valued by many who speak in testimony of her in death. (my loose translation). About the image he adds an interesting footnote: The patera, which belongs strictly to the priest or priestess, is commonly transferred to the object of worship." This observation is in keeping with the role of ritual enactment of myth as a drama in which the temple functionaries stand in for the mythological figures. At any rate, it is the gracious generosity of Livia toward Galba that is being celebrated in and by this reverse.

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08/11/2017 11:00 am
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 Posted 08/11/2017  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orfew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an excellent portrait of Galba. I am truly amazed by the variety of portraits on his denarii. I am always on the lookout for interesting coins of Galba. With the recent purchase which you referenced I only have 2, but I would like a few more.

I really like how much thought and care you have put into your writeups. Thanks for this and for sharing such excellent coins.
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only one comment : BEAUTIFUL COINS . albert
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Here are the other two for today.

Marcus Salvius Otho (69)
(BMCRE 17; RSC 17; RIC 12)
All the coins of Otho were minted in gold or silver at Rome.

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IMP M OTHO CAESAR AVG TR P
bare head facing right

Otho had seized the imperial office upon the death of Galba in mid-January, 69, but almost exactly 3 months later committed suicide in capitulation to the superiority of the forces behind Vitellius. Not surprisingly, only two obverse inscriptions appear on his silver coins, this being the earlier. Mattingly summarizes Otho's visage as, "large full-featured, thick necked portrait with neatly dressed hair." Of Otho's appearance Suetonius made the remark, "He was as neat as a woman...he wore a close fitting wig." If the wig was a standard, or even requisite, part of his attire, it might explain why it is that on all his coins he is bare headed, never laureate. Mattingly surmises that Otho was waiting on that for the Senate to confer the honor that would justify adopting the appearance of a Julio-Claudian.

SECV RI TAS P R
Securitas standing left, holding wreath and scepter

Securitas as a motif on coinage was first introduced by Nero celebrating his escape (SECURITAS AVGVSTI) from the conspiracy of Piso. Rebels of the Civil Wars had used the image, but now in reference to the people of Rome (PR=Populi Romani), not the emperor per se. Otho intended this latter connotation, using the PR, with the twist that Securitas is now standing holding the scepter (for dignity) and the wreath (for joy). Considering the brevity of his reign there is something ironic about his reference to this figure at all.



Aulus Vitellius (69)
(BMCRE 34; RSC 72; RIC R20)
Minted at Rome

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A VITELLIVS GERM IMP AVG TR P
laureate head, right

Vitellius accepted the title Augustus on July 18. This commenced his third coin issue, adding AVG to the titular inscription, and remained the form until his death December 20, 69 AD. The laureate wreath and the title TR P were probably the result of a definite decree of the Senate.


PONT MAXIM
Vesta, veiled, seated right on throne, patera in right hand, scepter in left

Vitellius was elected "Pontifex Maximus" (Chief Priest) on July 18, the anniversary of the Roman disaster of Allia in 390 BC at the hands of the Gallic Senones. A significant historical event with lasting cultural effects. The worship of Vesta (e.g. Vestal Virgins) as one of the main parts of Roman religion was always very closely associated with the "Pontifex."

One word of apology on this particular example of this coin: my coin ws overcleaned prior to my obtaining it, and is very shiny; so much so that it is difficult to light for photography. Lighting that is low enough not to create gleaming "hotspots," will fail to bring out details in the relief. I am still working to find a more even illumination.

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I love the Otho. Such a great portrait.
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Another great group. Some real connoisseurship in evidence here. These are prime examples.
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Despite the shine, that Vitellius is really nice!
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 Posted 08/12/2017  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Superb pieces.
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 Posted 08/12/2017  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And finally:


Vespasian (71 A.D.)
Titus Flavius Sabinus Vespiasianus
BMCRE 453; RSC 67; RIC 329
Minted in Ephesus

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IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS III TR P PP

As a general, Vespasion was often charged to "pacify" disrupted parts of the empire in an after the Civil Wars. In many respects this role continued as emperor, aided by the ministrations of his son, Titus, and so the coinage for Vespasian is considerable, from a number of mints around the empire.

Unlike Tiberius, whose visage on his denarii belie his advanced years (52) when he assumed the purple, busts of Vespasion leave no doubt that he was all of 60 years of age when he was called to the imperial office. Moreover, he held that office for 10 more years, and the coins do not hold back the truth about his appearance. For this reason, distinguishing father and son, despite common naming elements, is generally not a problem.


CONCORDIA AVG
in exergue EPHE (second set ligatured)

Ceres, veiled, draped, seated left on throne, foot on stool, holding two heads of wheat and a poppy extended in right hand, and cornucopia in left.

The detail on the reverse is extraordinary considering that the surface area is 29% smaller than normal. (diameter = 16mm vs 19mm). Nonetheless, I could not help being surprised by how masculine the face of Ceres appears in this rendering. The size of the nose and the strength of the jaw seems unusually large for a woman, in my limited experience. I also found it interesting that the grain represents one of the great necessities of life, but here they are supplemented with a poppy (the round object on a stick). Whatever it takes to keep the people happy, I guess.

Noteworthy too is the use of an abbreviated place name in the exergue to designate the mint. The last two characters are ligatured across the top, and are only similar in appearance to the letters EPE, the middle being more like a Greek letter Phi. There has been some dispute as to whether or not this represents the initial letters of Ephesus.



Titus Flavius Vespasianus (79)
BMCRE 61; RSC 313a; RIC -
Minted at Rome


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IMP TITVS CAESAR VESPASIAN AVG P M
(reading up from left)

bare, laureate bust facing right

When his father was called to Rome to serve as emperor in 69 AD, Titus was charged to finish the "pacification" from the Jewish war that had begun in 66. With the destruction of the Jewish temple in 70 AD, Titus determined most of that work was done, and headed for Rome to assist he father, leaving the cleanup operations to the 10th legion. For the next nine years he served as Caesar under his father, but was automatically advanced to Augustus in 79 AD after his fathers death, a position he occupied for only two years prior to his own death. As a result, out of 14 different obverse inscriptions on the denarii of Titus, only two bear the AVG title for him as Augustus, this one and a shorter version.


TR P IX IMPXV COS VIII P P
throne with triangular back



Domitian (81-84)
T. Flavius Domitianus
BMCRE -; RSC -; RIC -
Unlisted Mint of Rome?

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IMP CAES DOMITIANVS AVG P M
(reading up from left)

bare, laureate bust right

Really not sure what to make of this piece, so I thought I would post it here. There is nothing particularly exceptional about the features of the obverse.

COS VII DES VIII P P
This is a variant example from the third issue for Domitian. It has the reverse inscription of #10, but with the reverse type of #22; (tripod with fillets streaming out l and r, on which is a dolphin, as on no. 4) This combination of reverse inscription and reverse type is not listed in any of the standard references. It is a close variant of BMCRE #10 for Domitian, so I have dated it to the same time frame.

On that last one, tell me what you think from your experience with these. This combination is unknown in BMC and RSC, but I do not have the appropriate volume of RIC to verify anything.

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As a capper, here is a pic of the whole set from the page in the binder in which I keep them. (click to see)


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I love the Vespasian. These Ephesian denarii were executed by masters of portrait art. I have one as well. I posted it on this board a couple of weeks ago.

Your Domitian appears to be RIC 38. I just checked my copy of RIC II Part 1. It is R3-only one known example, in the Holt collection. Other examples may have surfaced since publication. I will take a look.
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