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Needed: A Discussion Of Modern Doubled Dies

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The "hobby" has fallen into calling common machining flaws as super-dooper errors, and a short trip through ebay land shows just how far it has gone beyond reason.


This, in my opinion, is the real reason for all of this ranting. Sorry you can't sell your wares, USSID18.
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Certainly lots to digest in this thread.
Most of us tend to collect what we can afford or pretend to. I'm sure "original" coin collectors couldn't comprehend the draw of errors or varieties. They wanted the best strike they could afford, period. (And probably wondered what all the hullaballoo was about with these coins that had die anomalies and were subpar.)

"Original" Morgan collectors were looking for the best strike possible. Now they are rabid about VAM's.

Varieties are sort of like religion, to each their own I say. You don't have to agree with it, just let them enjoy their choice.


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We are all freakin nuts! Guaranteed if you tell your friends, relatives or casual acquaintances you're a coin collector, 99.5% of them will look at you like you have three stinkin heads. Actually, it's the same way I look at someone who tells me they collector stamps!! LoL!!

Hey, the next time you're at a coin show or coin club, take a good look around you at some of those people! That's not me!


So true. I've done the same thing at coin shows and try to look at my fellow collectors like a non-collector would. WE are all gaga over some change. We are a weird lot! LOL
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WOW this is still floating around HUMMMM. USSID18: Let explain this in a simpler way for you to understand because this topic is getting OLD. When you collect BEANIE BABIES FOR A HOBBY you collect them all NOT just one or two kinds. They have Bears Cows Rabbits Mice and so on >>You want to collect them ALL right. Same thing with ERROR COINS no matter what the error. Your blowing all this up over the DDR Column Bar ERROR Yet again. Plain and simple MR Wexler and MR Wiles HAVE BOTH LISTED THIS AS A ERROR. Both of them have listed them on there error pages. Ask them why if you need a answer why its listed as a ERROR and why people collect them ALL.
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Daves Errors, what would you consider this Eisenhower?


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The reason I ask is because it is clearly a DDO yet both Wexler and Wiles consider it to weak to be listed as a DDO bur yet many that have been listed are far more weaker than mine.

Besides, who in there right mind would compare collecting Beanie babies to collecting coins? Sheeesh!
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Tootallious: You need to ask Wexler and Whiles why. I don't make there decision's for them. Also >>> Besides, who in there right mind would compare collecting Beanie babies to collecting coins? Sheeesh! ME I JUST DID Was it clear enough for you to understand? If not please let me know I'll find something easer for you to understand.
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Lol! If your attempting to insult my intelligence I wish you luck! Besides, I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man!
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Tootallious: >> Your just to funny ..
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Your blowing all this up over the DDR Column Bar ERROR Yet again. Plain and simple MR Wexler and MR Wiles HAVE BOTH LISTED THIS AS A ERROR. Both of them have listed them on there error pages. Ask them why if you need a answer why its listed as a ERROR and why people collect them ALL.


@Daves Errors

The coin in question (1999 LMC DDR-003) is not an ERROR. As the names you throw out have it listed, it is a DDR. It's a doubled die. However minor, doubled dies are considered die VARIETIES. It's called "Variety Vista" for a reason. They are NOT called "errors" in the numismatic community. The distinction is important and necessary.

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I know and understand the ( listing ) as a DDO / DDR. So is that how it was designed or intended to go out in to the public from the mint, No was not to be Doubled or go from the mint as a DDO or DDR. So how dose that NOT make it also a ERROR if it was not intended to be that way. You can dress it up and slap Varity on it but in my book its STILL a ERROR was not intended to look that way leave the mint that way and having Doubling...
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I know and understand the ( listing ) as a DDO / DDR. So is that how it was designed or intended to go out in to the public from the mint, No was not to be Doubled or go from the mint as a DDO or DDR. So how dose that NOT make it also a ERROR if it was not intended to be that way. You can dress it up and slap Varity on it but in my book its STILL a ERROR was not intended to look that way leave the mint that way and having Doubling...




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The error v variety debate is just arbitrary. It doesn't matter. Wouldn't varieties technically be a type of error? Calling doubled dies errors isn't wrong, just not specific.

USSID18 is just trolling all of us. He brings up a controversial opinion that even all of the experts disagree with, gives no evidence, and sits back and laughs at all of us bickering. His last post is pretty much proves this. He never wanted to have a meaningful debate, just chaos for entertainment.

Let this thread die.
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My only words on the subject. Collect what you like.
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USSID18 is just trolling all of us. He brings up a controversial opinion that even all of the experts disagree with, gives no evidence, and sits back and laughs at all of us bickering. His last post is pretty much proves this. He never wanted to have a meaningful debate, just chaos for entertainment.

Let this thread die.


I'm not trolling and I'm not sitting back here and laughing! Just wanted to generate discussion and opinions on a not so clear cut topic. Read the subject line again!

It worked, or you wouldn't be replying. And I don't appreciate your sarcasm and insults!
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Tamman2001 Is correct >>The error v variety debate is just arbitrary. My last dying words for this thread Is if it was not intended to go from the mint as a messed up Design ITS A ERROR.GOOD NIGHT Coin World ...lol
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http://doubleddie.com/356801.html
Did you read the article before the listings of the DDO and DDR? That might help to fill in some blanks?
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