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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Noticed this on ebay with a very high price tag and attributed by PCGS Any idea how it could have happen with both Revs. and Obvs. struck on to this quarter?   
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My guess would be a mint employee deliberately did it.
If the employee did this then there will be other items they did eventually show up, too.
Kinda sad when you think about it.
As always though "money does funny things to people"!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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A struck quarter was fed into the cent press. Called double denomination.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: My guess would be a mint employee deliberately did it Absolutely. I wonder how someone could get away with it though. They must have a third party submit and/or sell them or they'd be able to trace it right back to the guilty party.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I was under the impression that employees have to go through sophisticated metal-detective devices very day. And would it even be possible for an employee to walk up to the press and just stand there and insert a quarter blank and then walk away with it? 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I was under the impression that employees have to go through sophisticated metal-detective devices every day. Truck drivers at the loading docks don't. Coins are small and can easily be passed to a friendly driver willing to share the profits.
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Pillar of the Community
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"Mint Error" ? OK then  Ranks right up there with this one........ 
Edited by Rothery 12/17/2020 1:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: As always though "money does funny things to people"! Obviously,with a $12000.00+ price tag!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My understanding is such a coin is not possible via normal automated coin manufacture because, in this case, a quarter is too large to fit through the planchet loading mechanisms into a press making cents. If someone hand operated the machinery, well, then, yeah, it could happen, but in that case it's merely an "intentional error" which in my thinking isn't an error at all.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Ranks right up there with this one........ Yea how does that happen? Pretty sure there are no nails around that press
Edited by Keith67 12/17/2020 3:07 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Very interesting, but I concur, this one had significant human intervention in its creation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7632 Posts |
My guess it would have been done by a press repair technician.
All he has to do is bring in extra coins in his tool box, along with nails or anything else handy, and gets to work. Fix the problem, pull out a few things to strike coins on (other coins, nails, whatever) and test the press. Once he's done he signs off the press as repaired, packs up his tools (and newly created rarities) and heads back to the shop. Over the next few weeks he slowly removes his treasures out the exit doors.
He waits a few years, retires or needs money and visits his local coin dealer and starts peddling off his treasures. Pretty simple plan when you think about it.
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Forum Dad
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Quote: My guess it would have been done by a press repair technician. As good a theory as any.  Quote: He's got quite a few things that look like they had help.... That Ike is tempting me. 
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Pillar of the Community
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The Chinese or Russians now tampering with our coinage?
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Fully agree this is a man-made 'error' and as such falls into a grey ethical area of provenance. I say the coin should be destroyed and the offending creator found and prosecuted for whatever mint tampering laws exist (if any) Then again - the early US mint has a history of creating fantasy strikes for well heeled collectors. I'm simply against using a position at the mint to create a 'genuine error' by manipulating the normal mintage process. It's wrong and should be punished; not rewarded by $12,000 ebay listings Thats my 2c worth. 
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