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Bedrock of the Community
 United Kingdom
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On Halloween Night I had sorted through the ominous total of 666 British penny coins, so I thought I'd list the results!  1971 20 1972 None - Proof sets only 1973 1 1974 3 1975 2 1976 8 1977 4 1978 1 1979 7 1980 6 1981 1 1982 2 1983 4 1984 2 1985 1 1986 6 1987 8 1988 9 1989 12 1990 4 1991 4 1992 3 1993 13 1994 19 1995 6 1996 16 1997 9 1998 20 1999 34 2000 32 2001 29 2002 10 2003 17 2004 23 2005 14 2006 25 2007 13 2008 Portcullis 6 2008 shield 20 2009 27 2010 26 2011 20 2012 23 2013 9 2014 25 2015 Rank-Broadley 17 2015 Jody Clark 39 2016 20 2017 35 2018 None - Unc and Proof sets only 2019 None - Unc and Proof sets only 2020 3 2021 None - not known if any have been issued 2022 None - not known if any have been issued Others Jersey 1986 1 Jersey 1994 1 Jersey 1998 1 Guernsey 1971 1 Ireland 1p 1988 1 Canada 1 cent 1999 1 Spain 5 eurocents 1999 1 1 Farthing 1944 1 Bronze coins represent approximately 16.3% of the total and the remaining 83.7% are copper-clad steel.
Edited by NumisRob 11/05/2022 10:07 am
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Moderator
 United States
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Looking good! 
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Valued Member
United States
413 Posts |
Fascinating post on noodling!
Would a farthing passed off as 1p now? I am surprised you would find it in the circulation!
Can hear my Dad telling me how much he could buy with a farthing. :)
Keep up doing the great work! Hope you would find these elusive 10p coins!
My uncle tried to do for me but he gave up because it is not easy to find them. I explained to him that one has to pop in the bank to get a bag or two. It is too much work and I just let my request slide as I learnt the mintage is pretty low.
He always is on the lookout for me. Bless him.
Will keep an eye on your topic!
Cheers!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United Kingdom
18010 Posts |
Quote: Would a farthing passed off as 1p now? I am surprised you would find it in the circulation! They are slightly smaller but most people don't really scrutinize pennies so I imagine they could stay in circulation for a whlle. I have found three in circulation over the years, and rather more old halfpennies as 2p coins. This one was in a bag of 100 coins I got from the bank.
Edited by NumisRob 11/15/2022 5:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2624 Posts |
Interesting thread. I have worked in various places that handle money and I have yet to handle an alphabet coin. This is the coin release that thwarted my interest... up until that point I had found virtualy every coin possible (missed a few olympic 50p coins but I bought a set of them so that didn't bother me) I even found the kew gardens in change before everyone else had caught onto it... I can't believe how much they sell for now. Sometimes I feel we can have too much of a good thing.... after doing the USA State Quarters I got stuck into the Presidential dollars and about halfway through they seemed to become not for circulation or something.... the 50pence coins went mad here... I hoarded quite a lot of them thinking they might be useful for trading on here but completing out of noodling seems to have come to an end. Its even the same for banknotes, I used to be able to grab first series notes but it seems everyone has wised up... bank tellers too I expect.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Oddly enough this afternoon in my change was a 2018 "Z" - only the second I've found (the other was 2018 "M" about two years ago.)
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Bedrock of the Community
 United Kingdom
18010 Posts |
Well done, andyg!  I was in Brighton on business on Monday, and before going home I had a good look in all the 'pusher' machines on the pier and didn't see a single alphabet coin...
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I notice you made no distinction between copper and steel core. I believe there is a year where they were both produced. I have a note "98,676,000 made of bronze" written by 1998 for my 2p coins. if you still have the 20 x 1998 2ps from halloween maybe you could check them all with a magnet. it should be half of them approx don't stick.... I seem to have overlooked this myself as I don't have two coins for that year.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United Kingdom
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Quote: I notice you made no distinction between copper and steel core As far as I am aware there is no date of 1p coins that was issued for circulation with both bronze and steel planchets. With my 2p coins I do indeed note how many of both types I find for 1998. Here is a breakdown of my 2p coins so far... 1971 131 1972 none (Proof Sets Only) 1973 none (Proof Sets Only) 1974 none (Proof Sets Only) 1975 33 1976 5 1977 12 1978 14 1979 23 1980 48 1981 29 1982 none (Proof and BU sets only) 1983 none (Proof and BU sets only) 1984 none (Proof and BU sets only) 1985 17 1986 19 1987 37 1988 50 1989 51 1990 24 1991 11 1992 15 1993 24 1994 61 1995 9 1996 47 1997 69 1998 bronze 18 1998 steel 13 1999 57 2000 58 2001 77 2002 20 2003 43 2004 56 2005 41 2006 28 2007 47 2008 plumes 1 2008 shield 42 2009 32 2010 17 2011 23 2012 34 2013 10 2014 51 2015 Rank-Broadley 16 2015 Jody Clark 38 2016 40 2017 4 2018 None (Proof and BU sets only) 2019 None (Proof and BU sets only) 2020 None (Proof and BU sets only) 2021 5 Misecellaneous coins: 3 (2 x Isle of Man 2p, 1 x Jersey 2p) Out of 1,503 coins searched, 523 (about 35%) were bronze, so bronze 2p's are about twice as common in circulation as bronze pennies! The most interesting feature is the scarcity of 1976 2p coins, which have an official mintage figure of 181,379,000 (about 30 million more than in 1975) but are much scarcer. I first noticed this a few years ago when I was trying to find one from pocket change for an American CCF member and it took months! From the number in circulation I'd estimate the true mintage figure for the 1976 2p to be between 15 and 30 million. The fact that after 50 years the 1971 2p is still by far the most common date in circulation seems to be lost to the idiots on ebay who continue to list them for ridiculous amounts!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United Kingdom
18010 Posts |
I am doing an update as I've just had my first 2020 20 pence coins. I haven't been getting any bags of coins from the banks lately, so any additi9ons to the survey will be from change or from when I've changed a banknote into a change machine for £1 and 10p coins:  Breakdown of 20p coins found so far: 1982 283 1983 87 1984 21 1985 13 1987 51 1988 29 1989 57 1990 41 1991 10 1992 16 1993 60 1994 27 1995 55 1996 37 1997 46 1998 22 1999 37 2000 62 2001 98 2002 65 2003 89 2004 72 2005 98 2006 96 2007 75 2008 rose 8 2008 shield 85 2008 undated 0 2009 92 2010 101 2011 136 2012 98 2013 77 2014 146 2015 Rank-Broadley 58 2015 Jody Clark 192 2016 200 2019 58 2020 3 Date obliterated 1 Gibraltar 1988 AB 1 Gibraltar 2005 1 Gibraltar 2006 1 Guernsey 1992 1 Guernsey 2003 1 Isle of Man 2002 AA 1 Isle of Man 2003 BA 1 Isle of Man 2004 AB 1 Jersey 1989 1 Jersey 2016 1
Edited by NumisRob 03/25/2023 1:08 pm
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 United States
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Looking good! 
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Yes, it's a vicious circle. If bank and post office staff can remove commemoratives from their tills and sell them at a profit on ebay, then I can hardly blame The Royal Mint for seeing a marketing opportunity and selling them for inflated prices to start with. Trouble is, it really does spoil the fun of discovering something interesting in your change. I've seen alphabet 10p's going for £6 apiece at coin fairs. I've decided now to stop collecting British decimal coins for that reason. Thankfully there's a lot more stuff out there!
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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It seems that the situation with Russia is similar in the UK. They issue commemorative coins with a face value of 10 rubles (and yes, you will almost never find them in circulation), the only way to get them is to buy them from a dealer. It seems that things are best in the USA, where, as far as I understand, all commemorative coins can be found in circulation (apparently the circulations are so huge that it is impossible to sell them with %). By the way, I wanted to know. In the UK, is it possible to get Jersey, Gibraltar, etc. coins for change? When my mother was in London a few years ago, she brought me a "shield" and a certain amount of change. I was lucky and there was a pound of Gibraltar 2017 (now I don't have it anymore, now I regret that I didn't leave the coin).
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Yes - Channel Island, Gibraltar, Isle of Man and Falklands coins turn up occasionally in change in the UK. Most people don't even notice!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United Kingdom
18010 Posts |
At last I've found a 2023 Coronation 50p - my first 2023 UK coin from circulation. Here is an update on my noodling to (practically) the end of the year.  I haven't adjusted totals to show 'definitive' 2023 coins of King Charles III, although andyg from the Forum has already found some definitive 50p's in circulation. It's been a very barren few months for Alphabet 10p's - despite looking in the pusher machines at numerous seafront penny arcades over the summer, I never saw a single one! 
Edited by NumisRob 12/12/2023 3:48 pm
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