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A while back, I watched a short video by a coin dealer about collections vs. accumulations. That video really stuck with me, because I am developing barnacle-like encrustations of coins on my desk. I want to drastically cut back on my piles of coins in the coming weeks, but I think I need some coaching on how to make that happen.

My two main motivations here are to get my coin desk down to a manageable level, and also to free up dead money tied up in non-keepers.

I should probably explain that this is mostly a result of my variety hunting activities. Because the rewards of success are so strong—and because the quality of ebay pictures is so poor—I end up taking chances on coins that often don't pay off. So I am gradually accumulating slabbed coins and raw coins that are just ordinary coins. I am fine with breaking even or taking small losses during the liquidation of these coins, but if anyone has a better method than ebay liquidation, I am all ears. The slabbed coins in particular are tying up significant amounts of cash.

Another problem I have is the accumulation of circulated and even mildly damaged variety coins that I used for knowledge. I need some way to organize these reference coins. I had been considering airtite pages, but I am concerned that the storage isn't compact enough.

I will save my questions about the liquidation of the winners for another time. The growing pile of coin roll hunting nickels also needs to be addressed, but that isn't really what's causing chaos on my desk right now.
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Why give the sales section here a shot to help reduce some of your overage?
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lets start with a desk image
also it would help us help you if you were to numerate the types of coins all over your desk.
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Chaos on the desk--been there. I had mountains of world coins scattered about my work space several years ago. Finally placed what I considered the best into 'gently used' Dansco 7000 2x2 albums and unloaded the rest via ebay in many ~5lb bulk lots. After fees and shipping costs, I came away just a tiny bit in the black--a very tiny bit.
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Well, there's my desk-splosion. I had that round table pretty much cleaned off at the end of 2024, but now the avalanche has spilled onto the floor and eaten two shelves of my bookcase. Those blue 2x2 cases are jammed full of random coins, and there's about 300 nickels wrapped in little paper packets in that plastic tub on the top shelf.

The egg crates are part of that project for my elderly friend and her 50000 Lincoln cents. Not shown are the 100+ pounds of cents in the basement closet.

A big portion of the nickels on the bottom shelf are rolls of 2023 nickels that I am saving to search for DDRs. I made an effort to categorize the wall of DDRs on BVC into a search manual, but that effort is stalled.


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also it would help us help you if you were to numerate the types of coins all over your desk.

Yeah, that would help me, too!

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Why give the sales section here a shot to help reduce some of your overage?

The main thing stopping me is that I have never used PayPal to make private sales. ebay handles a lot of complexities like payments, fraud, and so forth.

Edit: forgot to include the table in the back room. =(
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Well, I got myself pumped up with caffeine and attacked the second table. There were multiple layers to the table—last year I got into a bad habit of laying down a cloth or towel and then proceeding with a new layer. It's all broken down into piles like Inspect, Grade, Store, Liquidate.

I stored about three dozen 1941 Large-S nickels in a container. I went through a phase where I was snapping them up from ebay. A few of them were uncirculated, and one is an absolute gem. That went to the Grade pile. Scattered around the table were four different BU specimens of 1954-S Jefferson nickel "Crazy Steps" DDR FS-801. No idea if it's worth grading those or not, maybe as part of a larger submission? Also found 15-20 Mercury dimes from 1942 and 1945 in little folded paper packets labeled "IMM" and "IMM?", including one knockout 1942 Inverted-S Mercury dime FS-501 that went straight to the Grade pile.

All sorts of other stuff in the layers like War Nickels, minor clipped planchet nickels, DDR proof nickels from the 1960s, die clash Buffalo nickels, and (no joke) at least 100 modern WDDR nickels from CRH, some identified and some just labeled with little sketches.

btw, I know I'm kinda rambling on this thread, but it really is helpful to me to post and organize my thoughts.
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btw, I know I'm kinda rambling on this thread, but it really is helpful to me to post and organize my thoughts.
It is okay. You are in good company!

Can I add to the drama and say it bothers me that your air return is partially blocked.
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Are spenders a subset of liquidate, or do you need a new bucket?

Seriously though, you could save only one or two exemplars of damaged varieties and spend the rest of the duplicates. Even if they might have some small premium, you'd be salting rolls for the next CRHer.
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Oh my! I thought I understood but you have me beat. I don't know if it would help but I have many of my finds in 2x2's in a portable filing cabinet in different file folders. You would have to have a full-sized filling cabinet though, or more.
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Are spenders a subset of liquidate, or do you need a new bucket?

Spenders just go straight into the spare change jar. Nickel spenders go into the CRH bucket labeled "Nickels to Wrap". It's a good question, though.

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Can I add to the drama and say it bothers me that your air return is partially blocked.

It's like 80% unblocked.

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I have many of my finds in 2x2's in a portable filing cabinet in different file folders.

How does that even work? I do have a little two drawer filing cabinet, but I think if I tuck them away, those coins will be forgotten forever.
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I'm also going through the avalanche. It started innocently enough, with a bird-dog scout I've known for years telling me to go to an estate sale. Then a second. Then a third. To avoid the long story, I came back with quite a few bags of wheat cents.* I had to make the search manageable. Here's what I did.

1.) I bought a lot of parts organizer trays from home improvement box stores. These have 17 adjustable compartments and are typically around 17"x13"x3.5" and run around $20-ish to $25-ish each. They sometimes go by the amusing name "large small parts organizers." They are stackable and uniform size.
2.) I printed labels for date and mint for the full run of Wheat cents, using generic address labels. I put each label on the short end of a 3"x5" index card, folded the card about 1/3 the way through the length, and stood the cards up in the tray compartments. It's important to make sure the sorting box top will close and lock without squishing the label cards. I adjusted the compartment sizes by relative mintages. I used three date-sorted trays for each decade, one for each mint.
3.) I made up two additional parts organizers for pre-sorting. The first had four larger trays, labeled "1909-1929," "1930s," "1940s," and "1950s." The second had four trays, two labeled "P," one labeled "D," and one labeled "S." (I made a second card labeled "D" because the 1950s coins need two Denver trays and one Philadelphia tray.)
4.) I gathered a lot of plastic coffee cans and large peanut butter jars. A LOT of them.
5.) I went bag-by bag, sorting the coins. My first sort was by decade. (See step 3 for the sorting tray set-up for this step.)
6.) My second sort, within each decade, was by mint. (Again, see step 3.)
7.) My third sort was by year, with the piles of mint-by-decade previously pre-sorted coins. (See step 2 for the sorting tray set-up for the final sort.)
8.) When the specific year-and-mint trays filled, I scooped those coins out and dumped them into the coffee cans (for the larger dates, like 1940s P and 1950s D cents) and into peanut butter jars for the other dates. I labeled these cans and jars with the specific date and mint, e.g., "1956-D."
9.) I moved all of the coins to the basement, so they are out of sight and out of my way.
10.) I selected one specific date and mint to examine at a time. I bring that date and mint upstairs.
11.) Before tackling a specific year, I spend a week or so studying the known DDOs and major RPMs in detail. I make a full cross-reference sheet starting with the Variety Vista listings, then the Copper Coin listings that aren't on Variety Vista, then the Wexler listings that aren't on Variety Vista or Copper Coins. These cross-references make labeling the 2x2s easy. I make MS Word cheat-sheets with .jpg images of the 3 key identifiers for each major. As I go through the coins, I add to the marker lists with things I discover, such as "NW-SE die polishing through IN." These notes help narrow down the choices.
12.) I set up sorting trays for that specific date and mint. I used specific trays for each of the most desired DDOs, along with other compartments for the minor DDOs. The minors were labeled "eyelid," "motto," "LIBERTY," "date," and "other." I set aside one compartment for "DDRs." I used a small compartment for "Woodies." I used a small compartment for "errors." and I always kept one compartment for "mis-sorts" for the stray coins that landed in the wrong date or mint.
13.) I set up another tray/trays for the unlisted DDOs. I give them nicknames that make it easy for me to sort, e.g. "IN to NE."
14.) I toss all of the RPMs into a large pile. I sort them later, using the same method as the DDOs. I go through the DDRs for RPMs, too. I have zero desire to sort by DDRs, because I don't have time or interest in them I will bulk-sale them by miscellaneous roll.
15.) I have a coffee can for "shrapnel." These are the uncollectable culls that, frankly, just need to go back into circulation, because nobody wants them.
16.) I don't put ANY coins into 2x2s until I (a) have absolutely verified the DDO / DDR/RPM, (b) have individually photographed the obverse, reverse, key markers, and any damage affecting grade/details, and (c) entered the coi9n into my inventory (Excel spreadsheet). I have already worn out two sets of needle-nose pliers crimping 2x2 staples. Never forget that step.
17.) The 2x2s go into the generic red storage boxes by date. I'll sort them by variety before I wholesale them out.
18.) The remaining coins I run through coin counters, roll them, and wholesale them.

That long process keeps my work area manageable. It also can be a bit boring, seeing the exact same die pairs over and over for weeks or months.

By working with just one date and mint at a time, the search is faster, the identifications are better, and the knowledge gained is fascinating. It's the old adage differentiating generalists from specialists: "Generalists know less and less about more and more until they know nothing about everything. Specialists know more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing."

That's just my nerdy approach. It isn't THE way to do things. It's just the way my mind works and the way I can avoid drowning in coins.

*The first estate sale had 47 bags. We won't talk about the other two estate sales or mention the 16 coffee cans of steel cents. Nope. Never.
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Be like Scrooge McDuck. Get more, and build a pile big enough to ski down.
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A 7.0 earthquake would stir things up a bit--no injuries(!), just chaos.
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I don't know how I would start, but I would like to recognize the two beautiful dog figurines on the bookshelf!
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