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This Is A 1964 Special SMS Set. They Are Ultra Rare And Unique. Everything About It Screams SMS.

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Please point out the specific markers and characteristics that make you believe these are the ultra-rare 1964 SMS coins?

I hope you are correct, but I'm very skeptical.

You realize that only ~50 of the 1964 SMS were produced, all controlled and distributed by the then Mint Director. The odds of you coming across a complete 5 coin set of 1964 SMS are about impossible.

To my eye, the nickel looks like it might be a Proof strike, the rest look like everyday business strike coins.
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Plain and simple, the 1964 Special Strike Kennedy half's are not suppose to exist. However, there are about a dozen or so examples which have surfaced in the past 15 years. Therefore, it is the scarcest non error or variety Kennedy half dollar in existence.

The 1964 Special Strike Kennedy half dollars display very unique characteristics unseen on any other coins of the era. First of all, the strike is very sharp as it displays very clear details on both the obverse and the reverse. The coins also contain a smooth satin like appearance with the rims being very square and sharp. There are die polishing lines throughout the coins surfaces. These coins also tend to lack contact marks unlike business strike coins, indicating that they were struck and handled under extreme care. Furthermore, the coins do not display the reflective surfaces that are usually encountered on proof coins.

These 1964 Special Strike Kennedy half's were first noticed in 1993 when they appeared in a Stacks auction. Apparently, the coins originated from Lester Merkin who was a well known coin dealer. His collection was later consigned to Stacks. It is also believed that Lester Merkin initially acquired the coins from a Mint employee or Eva Adams who was former Director of the U.S. Mint.

Coincidentally, there are also other Special Strike coins in different denominations that exist for this date. These include the Lincoln Cent, Jefferson nickel, Roosevelt dime and the Washington quarter. There is also about one or two dozen sets believed to exist for each of these denominations.

In numismatics there are also other coins which are not supposed to exist, such as the 1933 Saint Gaudens double eagles and the 1913 Liberty nickels. It also took years before some of these coins ever surfaced, and the entire circumstances in how they eluded the U.S Mint is also a complete mystery. Although, the 1964 Special Strike coins are not necessarily in the same league as other classic rarities, they do tend to have the same mysterious history behind them. The fact there are also very little examples of these coins in existence and much cheaper than other legendary coins, only makes them much more desirable to a lot of collectors.


As of September 2009, PCGS has only certified 12 examples of the 1964 Special Strike Kennedy half dollars in all grades combined. In conclusion, this also makes it the scarcest of all the 1964 Special Strike coin denominations produced.
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One of the interesting diagnostic features of the Specimen Strike 1964 Half Dollars is a small, raised defect that appears to hang from the crosslet of the 4. This defect has been seen on all examples except one. In an admittedly rare hypothtical situation where one of these remarkable coins was spent, the defect can be used to confirm the original status of the coin.

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I'm afraid none of these are the rare SMS strikes , I know it is disappointing to you but I agree with above.
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FYI, you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning 6 days in a row than finding ANY 1964 SMS coin in the wild. Also, none of them are unique.

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I agree with the above comments. Not SMS.
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CoQCoins, what indicates to you that these are SMS?
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I see nothing to indicate these are sms coins, I do see some things that eliminate the possibility of sms. The cent is a late die state obverse with the lettering pushing into the rim. The so called sms coins were from fresh new dies.
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The coins put me in mind of impaired proofs.
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But...
I agree with makecents here.
I have a better chance of being in complete control of the US Mint as these coin have a chance of being from an SMS set.

These god awful images certainly don't help either.
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Diemarkers for Kennedy,

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You can post all the images you want, but it still won't be an SMS. Sorry, but you're wrong. Pareidolia is very real, especially when looking at super blurry images.
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Hehehe..It is very easy for me. I can just look at the field and tell because I have em in hand. They do t look like nothing else. They do not look the same as the 1965 sms or 66 sms.
The Kennedy and the Cent looked like business strike coins but very slick.

Key: Gotta have perfect 6steps (there are no 6fullsteps on regular strikes).

coins do not have that mirror look or reflection, a tiny bit is ok). Satin is what you want..

U can tell just looking at them...u dont see it?



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No, I absolutely do not see it.

Then send it to PCGS. You'd be really dumb not to if you're sure, it would be worth a small fortune. It's a 100% no brainer, but an expensive lesson.
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That 'marker' you circled on the 4 is not in the correct location - it must match EXACTLY in location can't be off by any fraction of a mm

However Bobby is right - if you are so sure it is, send it to PCGS for validation, then please be sure to come back here with the final results.
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