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Did I Just Find A 1947 Henning Nickel

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 Posted 03/16/2022  8:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shenri to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,
I'm fairly new to coin collecting. I have some coin books from my mom when she passed. The nickel book has a few War Nickels and the dime book has a few that are silver and there are also 8 or 9 silver halves but not much else except for the 100 or so bicentennial quarters they she. I started collecting the State Quarters back in 1999 from pocket change but never bought rolls to search. I still have not finished those books.
Lately I have been watching tons of you tube videos of people searching box after box of pennies and nickels looking for wheat cents and pre-1960 nickels. I did my research on coin acronyms (DDO, LMC, PMD, etc.) and what to look for and even bought a Red Book which arrived yesterday.

I thought it looked fun so I decided to try my hand at coin roll hunting. Last Friday I went down to the local bank and bought my first ever 10 rolls of pennies and 5 rolls of nickels. I started opening the pennies and was excited to find a few 2009 bicentennial backs and 2 wheat cents. I opened the 5 rolls of nickels and found 4 that were pre-1960. Pretty cool.
On Monday I went to the local credit union and bought 10 rolls of pennies and 10 rolls of nickels.
The penny rolls were customer wrapped and had the initials LM on them. I'm going to find something good in customer wrapped rolls, right? Wrong. I opened the first five rolls and knew something was up when the oldest date was 1983 and each roll had one Canadian cent. I ended up finding two 2009 tribute cents, nothing older than 1983 and exactly 10 Canadian cents. I guess the initials on the rolls meant Lincoln Memorial.

Next, I started opening the nickels. I found several 2004 and 2005 Westward Journey nickels. Not really worth saving but to me as a new collector they are unique. I found 2 nickels in the 1950's and one from 1947. Pretty good for 10 rolls. The 1947 looked weird because it had this funny looking crack on the obverse and you can see it on the last A in America on the reverse. Here is the coin.
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I started doing an Internet search for die cracks to see if there were any coins worth money which lead me to a few articles talking about delamination and that it's a mint error and was common for 40's era coins but not really that valuable. I searched for 1947 die crack nickel and found some articles on Henning nickels. I looked for the loop in the 'R' but this nickel doesn't have it. One article says the 1947 is supposed to weigh 5.3g. This one weighs 5.26g. A 1947 that mom put in an album in the 80's weighs 4.86g and has been out of circulation for almost 40 years. If you search for "1947 lamination" on this site you will find some coins that have cracks in different spots. It would be interesting to know the weight of those coins.

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There is a post by VTLF (only 8 posts) on 2/24/2016 talking about the 1947.
http://goccf.com/t/254091&whichpage=2
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The best has great "luster" (no cartwheel effect but fresh surfaces with slight rub on the high points.) The worst has a major die defect under Jefferson's chin - not a clean die break but obviously something was missing from the die as there is lots of extra metal. One has a badly deteriorated area under Jefferson's chin.

That's what this nickel has.
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There are other posts from pyrbob (the expert) that talks about uneven ware. If you look at the first photo of this post you can see uneven ware on the left side of the coin. He talks about the letters looking soft and the fields flowing into the letters like the image below. The next photos compare the suspected henning on the left and a regular 1947 that was in one of my mom's old coin books.
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Below are up close photos comparing the two coins with the suspected henning on the left.
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Change my mind. Did if find a henning searching only 15 rolls of nickels?

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You could find someone's in the wild. I will not look for, are fake coins and if you want to sell you could have someone at your door, and you will be full responsible for your own action. I know to detect those coins but I will not be involved here in this community. Good Luck.
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 Posted 03/16/2022  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Sorry, this is not a Henning, The biggest give-a-way is the lack of the loop on the leg of the 'R' on the reverse of pluRibus. But on the '47, it seems that the R was not damaged on the die.

Edit: I did find a web site explaining these nickels.
I'm now not sure if it is or is not a Henning.
but here is a reference to start your start on determining if it is or not.
https://www.error-ref.com/henning-c...feit-nickel/


Your coin display a nice lamination error on the Obverse.
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to the CCF!
The crack on the obverse is called a lamination error, as impurities in the planchet caused the thin surface to delaminate, or peel apart from the coin. Very common and not worth a premium unless it is extreme.

I am not the person to say with 100% certainty that this is a henning nickel. I would say that there is a decent chance because I don't see anything that would contradict this being a henning.


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Lately I have been watching tons of you tube videos of people searching box after box of pennies and nickels looking for wheat cents and pre-1960 nickels. I did my research on coin acronyms (DDO, LMC, PMD, etc.) and what to look for and even bought a Red Book which arrived yesterday.

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A fair percentage of Henning nickels did not have the looped R. From what I've heard, the non-loop reverses have a die chip above the dome. I can't really tell if this one does. The experts may ask for closeups of that area.
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I see no specific markers for a Henning nickel here.
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 Posted 03/17/2022  04:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. There is a CCF member who knows his Hennings, but I just can't remember their name.
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Sorry, not seeing it. Keep searching!
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 Posted 03/17/2022  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shenri to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for checking into this. They weight is what got me interested. You changed my mind. Not a Henning.
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The strike is showing die wear. I don't recall the "Henning" nickels showing the heavy die flow lines on them.
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Also the strikes are weaker on the "Henning" nickels.
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All I ever see posted are the easy to spot 1944's with the looped R. Someone show me an up close photo and weight of a 1947 without the looped R.
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@Silvios

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You could find someone's in the wild. I will not look for, are fake coins and if you want to sell you could have someone at your door, and you will be full responsible for your own action. I know to detect those coins but I will not be involved here in this community. Good Luck.


In Canada this is true Silviosi, but here in the US it is legal to own/sell a counterfeit coin. Trying to spend a counterfeit like it is real is illegal though.

So there are even people down here who collect counterfeits.


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There is a CCF member who knows his Hennings, but I just can't remember their name.


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pyrbob rides again. Search for more.
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Sorry I've never heard of a henning nickel and I've been cherry picking and collecting error coins for more than 3 decades. I do however I know a little about the silver Kennedy half dollar that you said was your mom's-make sure none are silver 1776-1976. That coin has value(don't know if you knew)
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