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Possible 90% Silver 1967 Kennedy

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When my Grandmother passed away about thirty years ago, we were cleaning out her apartment. In one drawer I found a 1967 Kennedy half dollar gently wrapped in tissue and put in a drawer with her jewelry. I still have it, and this thing looks for all the world like a 1964 Kennedy with a 1967 date. There is no sign whatsoever on the reeded edge that it is a sandwich coin. I recently joined NGC and I get five free submissions with my membership. I am considering using one of my submissions to have them check this coin out. I would say it is around an MS64 so at the very least I would have this coin that was precious to my Grandmother slabbed. I recently saw an Indian Head cent that was punched out with a Quarter Eagle gold planchet, so at least I know that it is possible. My question is, would you waste a submission on a coin that may be nothing more than a nice 1967 Kennedy half, but could potentially be a real rarity?
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Weigh it first.

If it is a 90% struck in '67 it will weigh 12.5 grams instead of 11.5 grams like a 40%'er.
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I agree with Scoobyyy Scooobyy Doooooo
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1967 halves do not have a "sandwich" edge. They are 40% silver and have all silver reeding on the rims. They look exactly like 90% silver halves because the entire outer surface of the coin is 80% silver.

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Thank you for the tip on weighing it. As far as the reeded edge goes, I have other 67's and I can see a copper portion on one part of the edge. Thank you for your replies.
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If the coin is still in BU condition it will not have a dark line as you pointed out 40%s have. Grab an SMS coin out of a set and it will also have a bright edge like a 64 because the silver has not tarnished yet. As far as I know that error is not possible. There were no 90% blanks in the mint in 67... only some off struck 65's
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The verdict is in. It weighs exactly 11.5 grams. Now I can sleep tonight with one more of life's mysteries solved. Also I can get a gold coin slabbed instead of wasting it on that Kennedy. I owe you a beer Scooby.
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Wasn't there some poor chap on here not too long ago with the same issue...he swore up and down, left and right that he had a half like this...sound familiar?
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... It pained me to read that thread... I felt bad for the guy honestly...
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1967 halves do not have a "sandwich" edge. They are 40% silver and have all silver reeding on the rims. They look exactly like 90% silver halves because the entire outer surface of the coin is 80% silver.
This is not entirely correct. They are still clad with an exposed core composed of 79% copper and 21% silver. Because of the way the planchet is cut, the core may sometimes be obscured by metal flow from the upper 80% silver layer.

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If the coin is still in BU condition it will not have a dark line as you pointed out 40%s have.
This is correct. It is difficult to see the core on an untarnished piece, but it is often (but not always) readily apparent on a circulated piece. It is just not as obvious as the Cu-Ni clad pieces since the core is very close to the colour of the out layers.
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This is not entirely correct. They are still clad with an exposed core composed of 79% copper and 21% silver. Because of the way the planchet is cut, the core may sometimes be obscured by metal flow from the upper 80% silver layer.



Thanks for the correction jbuck. I didn't have any on hand to look at and was going from memory. The ones I had in the past didn't have a copper band on the rim but after looking at some Google images, I see that some of them do have a faint copper band.
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There were no 90% blanks in the mint in 67... only some off struck 65's

Are these 90% 65's considered error coins? How common are they?
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Not common at all, as far as I know they are pretty valuable, how valuable... someone here will know.
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So unlike the copper 1983 Lincoln Cent which no one has found yet, there are some rare 90% 65's that have been found. I guess I should check the few I have for the heck of it.
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This is not entirely correct. They are still clad with an exposed core composed of 79% copper and 21% silver. Because of the way the planchet is cut, the core may sometimes be obscured by metal flow from the upper 80% silver layer.


Yep I agree. I have found 40% halves from roll searching because the previous searcher saw the copper band and assumed it was not silver. He or she had even marked the edge with a black marker just like a bunch of other halves in the box, so that's why I look at every single date. The quick eyeball test doesn't always tell the story. :)
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So unlike the copper 1983 Lincoln Cent which no one has found yet,

There have been reports of copper 1983 cents.
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