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1871 Proof Sl Dollar

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Just wanted to post a photograph of a proof to support the discussion we have been having on Luster and Cartwheel of mint state coins of this date on another thread.

https://goccf.com/t/9696

This is a good example of what I have found in my experience. Here we have a 1871 Proof SL Dollar and the overall eye appeal to me is highly mediocre at best. Little luster and cartwheel if any. Almost steel grey in appearance and not a "reach out a grab ya" coin in my opinion. I am spoiled to frosty cameo Morgans and deep luster type coins.

Now, on the quarters of the SL series eye appeal and luster seem to abound. It seems that the lack thereof is really on the halves and dollars. I don't know why this is, but I suspect that it has to do with the relation of the strike pressure to the total planchet surface area. Simple physics comes into play.

The smaller the planchet the less surface area. The pressure of the strike can be concentrated more effectively. With larger planchets the strike would need to be much heavier to have the same effect and I don't think the Mints consider that very much back in the early years.

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Man that is one BEAUTIFUL coin, with or without frosting! It "grabs me". I must leave to wipe off the drool.
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I tend to agree with your theory, but the existence of lustrous Morgans belies it. I wonder if the SL's were basined differently, or not at all, and only the more concentrated strike was able to impart enough of the micro-roughness on the die to create luster?
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Originally posted by SuperDave

I tend to agree with your theory, but the existence of lustrous Morgans belies it. I wonder if the SL's were basined differently, or not at all, and only the more concentrated strike was able to impart enough of the micro-roughness on the die to create luster?



You know... that is an excellent point!! I have often wondered if the silver was different in composition.

Concentrated stike is the key I believe as it imparts the heat and pressure to create the "diamond" in my thinking.

Has anyone found an article that would explain more of this theory?
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