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Philip I Sestertius

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Hi everybody this is my new purchase,a philip I sestertius,there are a lot of antoninianii around but when I can if possible I prefer to buy larger coins.
This coin has some strange red fouling or maybe is a strange patina especially on the reverse,however I leave it as it is I think is fascinating in this way.
I think is:
RIC 175a Philip I AE Sestertius . IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right / LAET FVNDATA, S-C, Laetitia standing left, holding wreath and rudder. Cohen 73.
What do you think about this coin? Anyone wants to guess the price?

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11/15/2011 03:15 am
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 Posted 11/14/2011  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would not worry about the various colours of patination. I think that they are the total result of the various minerals with which the coin has come into contact with during burial.

Price? In this condition, perhaps around $70.

Large Imperial Roman bronze and orichalcum coins are always a good thing to have in any collection of ancient coins.
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 Posted 11/14/2011  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the larger coins as well, but to find Sestertius in great shape is hard and expensive generally speaking. These coins were perhaps the most common everyday coin of the people, so to find them in "mint" condition is difficult. Your coin still shows details in the lines of hair, both on the head and in the beard. These are some of the first things to be worn down on these well used coins. All in all, I would say you have a nice Sestertius. By the way, what is the weight and measurement?

As for price I can only take a guess based on condition and market availibility. I recently bought a Philip I Sestertius in what I consider very good condition for $45. So my guess for yours may be on the low side. I would guess around $30-$40. Below is the example of mine from which I am basing this guess. It is a RIC 180a:




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 Posted 11/14/2011  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks to both for reply.
I take this coin for 35 euro so more than jwharper's prediction,i know he's a money saver(and he's riht in this) however very good sestrtius jw and I assure you no one will sell it to you for only 45$here in Italy.
about weight my scale has low batteryand diameter is about 28mm.
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11/14/2011 1:38 pm
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I was pretty darn close don't you think? Since 35 Euros equals approximately $48 U.S., I was only off a few dollars. I like the Sestertius because of the size and weight and knowing that it was in everyday circulation only peaks the imagination. BTW, I'm "frugal" as someone so politely pointed out in another thread.
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yes,your prediction was nearly correct,the fact is that when I saw your one taken for only 45$ I was a little ashamed....you're right again I love sestertius for the same things you have displayed here.
I've said money saver because I try to write in english but as usually my english is not so good...to be honest I wanted to pay euro 30 for this coin but at the end we agree at 35....I was doubt even for the red patina but maybe is it's feature.
btw?is by the way?
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You are right. BTW = By the Way. We probably shouldn't be using text acronyms like this because they aren't always understood. It's just text shorthand and once again I should say your English is very good. Don't apologize. I don't speak Italian with the exception of Grazie and Prego (Thank you and Your welcome). I'll bet there are very few here who can speak Italian half as well as you speak English.

The price you paid seems about right for your coin. In this case, you have a nice coin you wanted at a fair price you were willing to pay. It doesn't get any better than that.
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It's a nice coin. It's kind of worn but not too worn, which gives it character IMO. I would guess $25-$35, but I don't know the actual value (or what these are going for) for these.

On another note, the only Italian I know is "requiescat en pace". I'll be hearing this phrase quite a bit tomorrow!
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11/14/2011 5:06 pm
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 Posted 11/14/2011  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks again jw an jango.
I've been several times in uk when I went to university,every summer for months.
Then I had even a girlfriend in Uk and I stay with her for long time.... but as I told you again for me is easier speak than write in english.
jango:are you going to a funeral tomorrow?I'm sorry for this.....
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Oh no. It's not like that. Assassins Creed Revelations (video game) comes out tomorrow, and the main character (an Italian) says it everytime he assassinates someone. Just a little inside-joke kind of thing. Sorry that I gave you the wrong idea.
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11/14/2011 6:37 pm
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no problem,however as you probably know requiescant in pace is latin,in italian is riposino in pace.:-)
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Ooops my bad again. Just checked and it is Latin BTW just a little tidbit, if your ever in Spain (or Latin America), in Spanish it's "descansa en paz". Hopefully you probably won't have to use it often. Just wanted to share a bit of my Spanish.
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That is an interesting coin. Not to show my ignorance but what year/time period is it?
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Around the 240s AD during the reign of Roman Emperor Philip the Arab.
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That is pretty awesome. Thanks.
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Quote:
Not to show my ignorance but what year/time period is it?


The coin I posted was struck 247-248 AD. It is awesome to hold something like this in your hand. Yes, Awesome is the word I would use to describe not only the coin, but the history too.
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