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 Posted 12/08/2011  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another one that took me a while to find again. could this one be a campgate?

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could this one be a campgate?


Hmmmmm - could be yes, its certainly barbarous, interesting, maybe I can also see an eagle, like the Alexandria ones looking left. I'll sleep on it and get back to you.

Going back to the first one I think its two figures on the reverse presenting or arms outstreached facing each other, maybe a reverse inscription something along the lines of ORIENTIS.
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Here are a couple of the crazier designs the rest look much better; more like the originals then these two. The third coin is by far the coin in the worst condition in the lot. It looks like a constantine.

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I did a little cleaning on the Constantinopolis commemorative and so far this is what I have, I like the desert patina look on the reverse so I prob will leave that but the obv can use a little more what do you suggest I do soak it in distilled water for a week or so? The crust crumbles when I press on it hard with a pick but what is left is more stubborn and I dont want to damage the coin.

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I say put in distilled water for a long time and forget about it, except to change the water now and then and check it. Work on other ones in the mean time.
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I need to have a think about the first one - I don't think its an alter, I think its official and could also be Gallienus or even Aurelian.


Not had any luck searching for this coin, I still think its official and is two figures reaching for the heavens. Hopefully someone else can recognise it.


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Fifth again is definitely barbarous - again need to think about the reverse.


This is probably based on one of the 4th century double headed coins, a few exist, the following is probably the most common:

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Six is as discussed yesterday some kind of eagle / campgate - open to interpretation I think, who knows for sure.

Seven is very barbarous, style, nonsense text etc, good example.

As is number eight - Most of these are, rightly or wrongly attributed to Tetricus.

Nine is official - GLORIA ROMANORVM, Emperor dragging captive, unattributable in current state but probably mid to late 4th century.

Pop a number next to the pics from now on so we can keep track of where we are!
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thanks bobbyhelmet and I will put a number by the pictures as I post them. I think your right about the two figures reaching for the heavens coin.
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I'm being lazy. Just watching
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I think your right about the two figures reaching for the heavens coin


I really hope someone recognises it - its got me puzzled. I'd say, due to the poses its some kind of posthumus issue of Gallienus, Aurelian or Claudius II. I can only assume its one of the rarer designs as I've not seen it before.


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could coin a be A tetricus and D a gallienus?
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could coin a be A tetricus and D a gallienus?


Correct

A - Barbarous Tetricus I - Prob SALVS reverse. Salus standing left, holding patera in right hand from which a snake, which is rising from small altar placed on ground to left, is feeding; in her left hand Salus holds rudder.

B - Barbarous Tetricus II - Prob a blundered PRINC IVVENT or PAX reverse, figure is prob holding a branch in right hand and a sceptre in left.

C - This is interesting and I'm still thinking about it.

D - Gallienus with PAX reverse - either official or a very well done unofficial copy, I'd go for the former rather than the later.
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C - This is interesting and I'm still thinking about it


Despite its authentic style its an unofficial coin.

The legend on the obv has been blundered and the VS of Tetricus has been transposed so the legible legend is [TET]RICSV PF AV[G].

The reverse picture imitates either a LAETITIA or a SALVS picture, prob SALVS. The left hand is clearly holding something resembling a rudder / anchor. The right hand is probably holding a patera and feeding a snake. The remaining 'VTV' makes little sense.
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